Step 1: tread water for a season.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: profit!
Good luck with that.
2a. Wait for McDavid to demand a trade.
2b. Trade McDavid to Detroit.
2c. Resign from the Oilers after a respectable amount of time so it doesn't look too fishy.
2d. Take that cushy consultant job with the Wings that you conveniently left to become GM in Edmonton.
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I don’t even mind smith. And I said it before they signed him. Koskinen had similar save% and GAA to Markstrom so I’m not super worried. We were sitting above Calgary in the standings before the world went to hell and they were doing good. Holland is still cleaning up the mess from Pistol Pete and I think he’s doing a good job. On the plus side I promise none of his signings today will be a buyout candidate in 3-5 years. He’s biding his time till next year, when some of these contracts are off the books.
And yet you didn't qualify for playoffs again 13/14 years.
Chicago ate Smith alive with him feeding them beauty apples, getting spun around behind his net. He's been doing that for years and doesnt plan on changing at 38. Rocking near that .900. Good to hear you dont mind that from your 1B though. Never change dude.
Like Vancouver you guys were dropping like lead balloons before the "world went to hell" but Vancouver rebounded when play resumed largely thanks to the return of Markstrom, whom we now have, and Demko, but the Oilers continued to play exactly as they had in march and were shown up by the 12th seed, a team that proceeded to get hammered in the round of 16 by a proper playoff quality team.
In a vacuum that Barrie signing was good, but in context he is exactly the kind of player you should not be adding more of.
Same with "all-worldly or awful" Smith.
Holland definitely is not Chia-bad. But hes still more or less following the MO of GMs past, trying to plug defensive holes with offense. But trying to outscore your deficiencies at the back end never works. You're emulating the Leafs, who probably have more firepower than you guys do down their lineup and still can't find success because like edmonton they neglected to invest cap space in the right kind of players on the back end.
Look at the Stars, Bolts, Blues, Bruins. Physical, stifling blue lines. Great team defense. Top end tandems in net.
The Oilers aren't even close with what they've put together after their top six. Adding Turris and PP man Barrie to an already good PP are redundant moves that don't budge the needle for you guys.
Like surely these things can't be completely lost on you?
You did take SOMETHING away from that play-in flop right? Hint: their downfall wasn't on the offense.
Or do you guys up there just eat up your homer media's garbage and forget that quickly?
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...Holland is still cleaning up the mess from Pistol Pete and I think he’s doing a good job. On the plus side I promise none of his signings today will be a buyout candidate in 3-5 years. He’s biding his time till next year, when some of these contracts are off the books.
Ken Holland signed Zack Kassian to a four-year $13 m deal.
ZACK FRICKIN' KASSIAN.
Ken Holland is no good.
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I don’t even mind smith. And I said it before they signed him. Koskinen had similar save% and GAA to Markstrom so I’m not super worried. We were sitting above Calgary in the standings before the world went to hell and they were doing good. Holland is still cleaning up the mess from Pistol Pete and I think he’s doing a good job. On the plus side I promise none of his signings today will be a buyout candidate in 3-5 years. He’s biding his time till next year, when some of these contracts are off the books.
I don't know man, I look at Holland and he might be slightly better then Chia, but he's been on the losing end of trades,
At the end of the day, he gave up assets and cap space on the Lucic trade, and after a hot start, Neal spent the year looking like butt. He badly lost the AA and Mike Green trades giving up assets for nothing. He's literally in my mind got a even to last years non playoff team, if not slightly worse team, while being at or over the cap at this point.
He didn't get any of the free agents that he should have been targeting, instead getting cast offs that look either past their expiry date in Turris, or are the wrong player to go after in Barrie.
The Oilers slid badly last year towards the end of the regular season and in the comeback and got their faces literally punched in by the worst team trying to qualify for the playoffs, yet I don't see any improvement.
Nobody thinks that his first round draft pick is help on the way and was a stretch.
I wonder if everytime his skype app lights up he panics because the Oilers management group isn't all that patient.
Just looking at lineups at this point, the Oilers are probably the 8th or 9th best team in the west behind.
LV, Vancouver, Calgary, St Louis, Colorado, Dallas, Winnipeg, Nashville.
I would if I was an Oilers fan go into this season with a great deal of pessimism and ask serious questions on why he bought in defensively dead players to a team with a this team scores mentality.
I mean, I don't think that Calgary is great shakes, but I take their blueline, goaltending, and bottom 6 over the Oilers. While the oilers have superior top 6 players on one line in Draisaitl and McDavid, the rest of their top 6 looks average at best.
Holland hasn't done a great job. The Oilers are in cap trouble this year, and even next year they have 11 players signed and maybe 30 million in cap space.
The Oilers have never done a proper rebuild, and now they can't because McDaivid probably won't stand for it, so they're a trapped franchise due to trend water and make the playoffs on a rare basis.
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I don’t even mind smith. And I said it before they signed him. Koskinen had similar save% and GAA to Markstrom so I’m not super worried. We were sitting above Calgary in the standings before the world went to hell and they were doing good. Holland is still cleaning up the mess from Pistol Pete and I think he’s doing a good job. On the plus side I promise none of his signings today will be a buyout candidate in 3-5 years. He’s biding his time till next year, when some of these contracts are off the books.
Of course they won't be. At least not the contracts signed today and yesterday. None of them are more than 2 years! He can't sign anyone worth keeping for more than a year or two. Nobody wants to play for that organization.
Kassian will be bought out at the end of next season. The guy became trash after the MT thing when he realized that he scared noone, made an ass out of himself, showed that he was a back jumping dirtbag with no self respect, and became a entitled over paid slug.
Another Holland beauty contract where he massively over paid a player because of stuff.
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The weird thing here to me is that the oil fans are mostly giving their GM top marks, literally an A or A- for all these signings. A few are not so happy to see Smith back, but basically they feel that their defense is really good, goaltending solid, and forwards elite.
I don’t even mind smith. And I said it before they signed him. Koskinen had similar save% and GAA to Markstrom so I’m not super worried. We were sitting above Calgary in the standings before the world went to hell and they were doing good. Holland is still cleaning up the mess from Pistol Pete and I think he’s doing a good job. On the plus side I promise none of his signings today will be a buyout candidate in 3-5 years. He’s biding his time till next year, when some of these contracts are off the books.
The Oilers were playing terribly just before the stoppage, and had the season continued they would have fallen right out of the playoffs.
I don’t even mind smith. And I said it before they signed him. Koskinen had similar save% and GAA to Markstrom so I’m not super worried. We were sitting above Calgary in the standings before the world went to hell and they were doing good. Holland is still cleaning up the mess from Pistol Pete and I think he’s doing a good job. On the plus side I promise none of his signings today will be a buyout candidate in 3-5 years. He’s biding his time till next year, when some of these contracts are off the books.
If you dig in though the two goaltenders separate.
The Canucks gave up a lot, and with that Markstrom had to do more to get to the save percentages you're looking at.
In the last two years in all situations Markstrom is 11th for GSAA, while Koskinen is 30th, Smith is 59th ... Rittich 38th
You're point is solid in that the Oilers do have a starter in Koskinen, but he's not a top ten or even top half guy by the numbers
