10-09-2020, 02:19 PM
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#561
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
If the AAV is 6 mill, the Flames pretty much can't sign Hall.
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Why not? They have $16.9M in cap space.
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10-09-2020, 02:19 PM
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#562
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Without other moves
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Good luck dumping salary after the start of free agency.
Although a Gaudreau trade would change everything.
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10-09-2020, 02:20 PM
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#563
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
Wow. good thing i took a 3 hour nap and missed this thread until now. Are all your F5 buttons broken now?
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Just bought a new keyboard, I'm good
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10-09-2020, 02:20 PM
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#564
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Franchise Player
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Flames might want to see where the conversation goes with Hall, before ponying up the extra 500k/1 million?
Maybe they are scheduled for their presentation with Hall right now, and that’s the hold up.
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10-09-2020, 02:20 PM
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#565
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Why does everyone fret over the term for these high end players? There is always some budget team willing to take on the cap hit contract in the last year or two as long as the real dollars are less. Throw in that teams can retain salary and you have so many options to divest yourself of the bad contract for a relatively small payment.
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10-09-2020, 02:21 PM
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#566
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by New Era
Just a quick comment, because this really is a bit of a hot button. You make it sound like Tkachuk is the straw that stirs the drink here. Let's be careful with that expectation. Tkachuk has been a terrible playoff performer to date. As much as we like to #### all lover our stars (Gaudreau and MonahanO for not producing, we have to acknowledge that Tkachuck is not a guy you're tying your playoff wagon to based on his past performance.
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Tkachuk is still VERY much on the rise though, whereas those top line guys are in their prime.
Tkachuk absolutely had an impact in these POs just not in the way people find easier to measure/quantify.
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10-09-2020, 02:21 PM
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#567
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Nostradamus
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London Ont.
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Just get it done. Fine with 7 years and $6 million per or less.
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10-09-2020, 02:22 PM
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#568
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by cannon7
The longer this goes on the fewer starter spots there are in the goalie game of musical chairs. So it is in Markstrom's best interest, from a leverage standpoint, to strike a deal early. Which suggests Treliving is the one dragging it out.
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I think Treliving would prefer to have it done sooner rather than later.
I am sure there are other free agents, goalie or otherwise, that he would love to pursue if he knows exactly how much cap space he has to work with. If Markstrom falls through and Hall or Brodie get picked up in the meantime, there will be a revolt.
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10-09-2020, 02:22 PM
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#569
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Tkachuk is still VERY much on the rise though, whereas those top line guys are in their prime.
Tkachuk absolutely had an impact in these POs just not in the way people find easier to measure/quantify.
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They sure missed him in Round #2.
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10-09-2020, 02:23 PM
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#570
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Misterpants
Why does everyone fret over the term for these high end players? There is always some budget team willing to take on the cap hit contract in the last year or two as long as the real dollars are less.
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Oh really? So the Canucks should have no problem getting out from under Loui Eriksson? The Okposo deal is no problem?
This is delusional. Of course it matters.
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10-09-2020, 02:23 PM
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#571
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Why not? They have $16.9M in cap space.
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6 mill Markstrom
8.5 mill Hall
3 mill Mangiapane
Remaining Cap Space: -0.6 mill
And still several empty roster stops.
Hall and Mangiapane could be cheaper, but still, there would have to be room for other bodies.
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10-09-2020, 02:23 PM
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#572
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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10-09-2020, 02:23 PM
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#573
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I believe in the Jays.
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Hopefully we negotiate so long that both sides hate each other by the time the deal gets signed.
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10-09-2020, 02:24 PM
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#574
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Not to derail further but Tkachuk's biggest issue is he tries to be too much of a pest in the playoffs and gets away from his game, gets himself hurt.
On topic, if he signs, what # does Markstrom wear?
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10-09-2020, 02:24 PM
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#575
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
6 mill Markstrom
8.5 mill Hall
3 mill Mangiapane
Remaining Cap Space: -0.6 mill
And still several empty roster stops.
Hall and Mangiapane could be cheaper, but still, there would have to be room for other bodies.
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Trade Gaudreau for a couple of top 4 d...and bam...roster completely retooled 
I am still guessing markstrom + toffoli + vataanen...
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10-09-2020, 02:24 PM
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#576
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Truculent!
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
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Welp, that's just terrifying.
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10-09-2020, 02:25 PM
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#577
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
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As Lou stated, Markstrom has ascended into the Elite category and it one of the top 5 goalies....are those guys cheap all of a sudden?
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10-09-2020, 02:25 PM
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#578
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
6 mill Markstrom
8.5 mill Hall
3 mill Mangiapane
Remaining Cap Space: -0.6 mill
And still several empty roster stops.
Hall and Mangiapane could be cheaper, but still, there would have to be room for other bodies.
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I am pretty sure, no matter what the circumstance Derek Ryan may very well be traded.
We need to address our defensive depth also.
Time will tell.
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10-09-2020, 02:25 PM
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#579
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
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10-09-2020, 02:25 PM
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#580
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Not to derail further but Tkachuk's biggest issue is he tries to be too much of a pest in the playoffs and gets away from his game, gets himself hurt.
On topic, if he signs, what # does Markstrom wear?
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First things first!
Second things never!
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