Your right to an opinion is the same as anyone else’s, and there has been plenty of honest discussion of differing opinions. But when you come in with an opinion not many people agree with, don’t act shocked and indignant when people voice their disagreement. And when you come in posting flimsy Facebook memes as fact, expect it’s going to be called out.
You’re not a victim, so stop playing one.
I could say the same about you, you were shocked and indignant when I voiced my opinion. You're panties aren't in a bunch, so stop whining.
This should be an important lesson if you feel you're being dog piled on. You screwed up by posting fake news in an attempt to damage the image of a man who was killed by those sworn to protect and serve.
Did George Floyd do some (incredibly) ####ty things in his past, probably. Everyone here has screwed up , not necessarily to the same extent, but he should be alive to face his wrongdoings.
Also on the dog-piling note: you have the gift of free speech, but you are not free from the consequences of what you say, hence dog piling.
George didn't just screw up, he was a violent criminal, and again I never said it wasn't wrong what happened. Does he really need a televised funeral and a gold coffin? (if that really happened) the media hype is ridiculous
You people can relax, I'm gone from this site. You guys just want validation, you're not interested in different opinions, go back to high fiving each other .
__________________
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Flames_Gimp For This Useful Post:
Assuming the report is true, George Floyd was a pretty awful human. Like, total scum. Doesn't mean he deserved to die. The cop who murdered him should be spending a long time behind bads.
Having that kind of nuanced conversation right now is probably impossible.
__________________
The Following User Says Thank You to White Out 403 For This Useful Post:
An oppinion that a man that put a gun to a pregnant womans stomach, is a garbage human, is something most people disagree with?
You keep going on about this crime, robbery, that occurred 12 years ago, that he served his time for (5 years) and since then has remained arrest free, has worked ever since and has had extensive volunteer and church involvement on top of working, by everyone's account he was no longer a criminal, he held down 2 jobs, both of which he was laid off from due to Covid, he clearly struggled with addictions through his life, in a country where being poor and black means almost no help with problems like addictions and little way of putting your life together after a major arrest like robbery, but he appears to have managed it, something a pair of lucky, privileged whites like you and I couldn't even comprehend.
It's easy being morally and legally pure when you have every advantage in the world handed to you, try it growing up in the slums this guy came from in one of the worst cities in the US to be poor and Black, Houston, he grew up in a neighbourhood you or I couldn't imagine in out worst nightmares
The Following 28 Users Say Thank You to afc wimbledon For This Useful Post:
You people can relax, I'm gone from this site. You guys just want validation, you're not interested in different opinions, go back to high fiving each other .
You don't have a different opinion, you think the guy was murdered, you think the cop should go to jail, you just thought it would be fun to piss people off by slagging off a dead guy
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to afc wimbledon For This Useful Post:
Minneapolis PD Suffocate Unarmed Black Man Who Later Dies in Hospital
Quote:
Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
You keep going on about this crime, robbery, that occurred 12 years ago, that he served his time for (5 years) and since then has remained arrest free, has worked ever since and has had extensive volunteer and church involvement on top of working, by everyone's account he was no longer a criminal, he held down 2 jobs, both of which he was laid off from due to Covid, he clearly struggled with addictions through his life, in a country where being poor and black means almost no help with problems like addictions and little way of putting your life together after a major arrest like robbery, but he appears to have managed it, something a pair of lucky, privileged whites like you and I couldn't even comprehend.
It's easy being morally and legally pure when you have every advantage in the world handed to you, try it growing up in the slums this guy came from in one of the worst cities in the US to be poor and Black, Houston, he grew up in a neighbourhood you or I couldn't imagine in out worst nightmares
I bet you a dollar he’d turn in to a violently deranged would-be killer.
Was thinking ‘what if’ - as in what if one of the rookies had stepped up and pulled the senior cop off of Floyd? He would have been hailed as a hero and/or sanctioned for breaking ranks and interfering with a senior officer.
Was thinking ‘what if’ - as in what if one of the rookies had stepped up and pulled the senior cop off of Floyd? He would have been hailed as a hero and/or sanctioned for breaking ranks and interfering with a senior officer.
It would have been great as George Floyd would not have been murdered, but I imagine the incident would have been much lower profile. If GF survives, I suspect greater likelihood the rookie is sanctioned and is an unrecognized hero
I think his likely-forced resignations (firing, sure) were regarding his assertion that systemic racism does not exist in Canada. Which, of course it does. Even the hardline Conservative supporters on this site have admitted as much. It's not much of a debate anymore (but what to do about it definitely is).
Is it not so much of a debate anymore because it's universally accepted as truth? Or is it rather that taking the opinion that systemic racism isn't a big problem in Canada publicly is now an opinion that is deemed by polite company as deserving to lose one's job or career for expressing?
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Cowboy89 For This Useful Post:
Was thinking ‘what if’ - as in what if one of the rookies had stepped up and pulled the senior cop off of Floyd? He would have been hailed as a hero and/or sanctioned for breaking ranks and interfering with a senior officer.
No one would have heard about it except the boys back at HQ, and the officer would be ostracized for disobeying and interfering. He'd probably be harassed right out of is job.
You people can relax, I'm gone from this site. You guys just want validation, you're not interested in different opinions, go back to high fiving each other .
Hahaha the ultimate snowflake. When faced with facts that disapprove his own, he says screw you guys, I'm outta here!
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Looch City For This Useful Post:
Was thinking ‘what if’ - as in what if one of the rookies had stepped up and pulled the senior cop off of Floyd? He would have been hailed as a hero and/or sanctioned for breaking ranks and interfering with a senior officer.
Not Minneapolis, but this same scenario played out in Buffalo, NY back in 2006. The intervening officer, a black woman named Cariol Horne who had 19 years experience on the police force (1 year short of pension eligibility), stopped a fellow officer who was choking a suspect. She was fired and lost her pension under the justification that she put another officer's safety in danger.
After she was fired, Horne worked several jobs to make ends meet. “It didn’t just affect me,” Horne told Spectrum News in 2016. “I have three sons that I have to worry about now. The message that they sent was clear: Even as a police officer, you don’t stand up against police brutality.”
On Tuesday, the Buffalo Common Council approved three resolutions in the wake of George Floyd’s death and the recent protests against police brutality. One of the resolutions will enforce the city’s “duty to intervene” policy, which mandates that officers intervene if they see another officer using excessive force. The council will also create a task force to review police policies, and the third resolution will ask the state attorney general’s office to determine how many days Horne would need to work to regain her pension.
Since her firing in 2008, Horne has become outspoken against police brutality and hopes to have legislation passed in her name that would protect officers who intervene when another officer uses excessive force and when reporting misconduct by fellow officers. According to McDuffie, a petition campaign is expected to unfold within the next few days to draw attention to the need for such legislation.
Emphasis added.
Last edited by MarchHare; 06-12-2020 at 08:26 AM.
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to MarchHare For This Useful Post:
Is it not so much of a debate anymore because it's universally accepted as truth? Or is it rather that taking the opinion that systemic racism isn't a big problem in Canada publicly is now an opinion that is deemed by polite company as deserving to lose one's job or career for expressing?
You can just look at income vs demographics and see systemic racism. Discussing the causes and solutions there is a lot of room for discussion. However when you have significant lower performance of a demographic group across any measure you choose to measure it becomes pretty clear you have systemic issues related to race.
The Following User Says Thank You to GGG For This Useful Post:
An oppinion that a man that put a gun to a pregnant womans stomach, is a garbage human, is something most people disagree with?
Was a garbage human being. He went to prison for that, served his time, and then from what I've read about him was trying to turn his life around before the cops murdered him. Isn't rehabilitation what we want from a justice system?
