They just fired the guy likely with legal counsel and a bunch of other circumstances.
Treliving's 'not discussing hypotheticals' is basically just saying that the deed has been done, the situation is resolved and hes not playing a game of 'coulda, woulda' while there are legal ramifications.
The media wanted blood and fire and soundbites, well too damned bad, the media arent legally responsible for the consequences so they get what they got.
If the media want Peters' corpse driven over by a truck then by all means they can get behind the wheel.
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AFAIK still has a job. Really sick of double standards.
So take it up with the voters in the Sydney-Victoria riding. It has absolutely nothing to do with Bill Peters.
For the record, I would not have voted for him. I don't think other people should have either. But alas people did vote for him. That's democracy.
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I never said there should be a different standard or that I agreed with the Liberals with not removing him...and I never voted Liberal.
I said it was dealt with in the only way that I know available to us in Canada. I asked you, what other avenues are present in Canada to deal with a PM who has such discretions from their past?
As we both know...there are none.
My entire point is why there are such double standards in this stuff. 99% of the population who heard the Peters story fully expected him to be out of a job at the end of it...for a variety of reasons it was the right thing to do and only logical conclusion.
Why should we not expect that from the party leading the country too? Why are they very much allowed to get away with condoning racist pasts by their collective inaction? Why are private companies held to a higher standard than our elected representatives who set policy for all this kind of stuff?
In short...why is some past racism forgiven and other is not?
Its part of the discussion moving forward that has to be addressed IMO, if there is to be any real headway made in the whole topic.
Just my thoughts on it is all.
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Please go relay this message in the AB politics thread good sirs. Could be useful in there.
Someone is in there claiming that Kenney could simply be fired (as if we worked at Burger King) because he or she didn't want him to be elected? That would be silly.
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I gained a lot of respect for Treliving in the way he handled this entire situation. You could tell he was pretty shaken up during parts of this announcement. This goes far beyond the expectation of your GM and would have been absolutely brutal. Well done Tre.
He said it was the hardest day of his career and I believe him. Nobody goes into most jobs, let alone GM of a hockey team, thinking that one day they are going to have to handle a very racially-sensitive situation with an employee coming off an incredible year.
In the matter of 12 hours after the story broke he had an entire country of hockey fans breathing down his neck, media digging into past stories and questioning why he didn't know about this, and internet keyboard warriors screaming for action. All while trying to navigate this ordeal with what legal council is advising him for something that happened in another country a decade ago before he even worked for this team. And it looks like the other GM of the other team hid this from him when he did his due diligence.
A pretty crappy situation for Brad to have to deal with. Yet here we are not even 4 full days later and the situation has been handled, investigated and resolved to the satisfaction of all parties.
Say what you want about BT for the team he puts on the ice. But IMO he couldn't of handled it any better, any quicker, with a better ending. It's a bad situation all around, but I'm glad the team had him at the helm. Much respect to him.
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My entire point is why there are such double standards in this stuff. 99% of the population who heard the Peters story fully expected him to be out of a job at the end of it...for a variety of reasons it was the right thing to do and only logical conclusion.
Why should we not expect that from the party leading the country too? Why are they very much allowed to get away with condoning racist pasts by their collective inaction? Why are private companies held to a higher standard than our elected representatives who set policy for all this kind of stuff?
In short...why is some past racism forgiven and other is not?
Its part of the discussion moving forward that has to be addressed IMO, if there is to be any real headway made in the whole topic.
Just my thoughts on it is all.
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Perhaps voters weighed Trudeau's racist incidents against his legislative and governmental record since that time, which included things like:
a $45-million investment in a national anti-racism strategy;
the addition of far-right groups to its list of outlawed terrorist organizations;
an announcement that Canada would officially recognize the International Decade for People of African Descent;
etc, etc.
I mean, I didn't even vote for a Liberal candidate in the recent election (although that was due to the SNC Lavalin scandal). I just can't stand these silly, simplistic red herrings being tossed out again and again.
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My entire point is why there are such double standards in this stuff. 99% of the population who heard the Peters story fully expected him to be out of a job at the end of it...for a variety of reasons it was the right thing to do and only logical conclusion.
Why should we not expect that from the party leading the country too? Why are they very much allowed to get away with condoning racist pasts by their collective inaction? Why are private companies held to a higher standard than our elected representatives who set policy for all this kind of stuff?
In short...why is some past racism forgiven and other is not?
Its part of the discussion moving forward that has to be addressed IMO, if there is to be any real headway made in the whole topic.
Just my thoughts on it is all.
First of all, you can expect what you like from the Liberal Party, no one is stopping you.
Second, Trudeau apologized in what I thought was a pretty sincere way, and his actions weren't directly aimed at a minority youth in the first place, unlike Peters.
Third, Trudeau could point to his other history re minorities and say "see, this is the bulk of who I am". Maybe some people accepted that.
Fourth, in an election, people vote for the party who they want to govern, based on a whole lot of considerations. They don't need to vote for one guy and based on one thing.
You think the Liberals should have turfed Trudeau over that, and that they don't deserve your vote on that issue (even if you support every other platform position)? That's your prerogative. Or you might vote for the party without forgiving Trudeau for that act. No one outside of one riding in Quebec was giving the option of voting for Trudeau in the general election. And even within the party was there a possibility of a leadership convention between the scandal and now?
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Sorry to everyone. I definitely contributed to that.
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They just fired the guy likely with legal counsel and a bunch of other circumstances.
Treliving's 'not discussing hypotheticals' is basically just saying that the deed has been done, the situation is resolved and hes not playing a game of 'coulda, woulda' while there are legal ramifications.
The media wanted blood and fire and soundbites, well too damned bad, the media arent legally responsible for the consequences so they get what they got.
If the media want Peters' corpse driven over by a truck then by all means they can get behind the wheel.
I’d like to think there is something in between, although not referring to the specific question that was asked.
Forget what the media wants, how about what fans and stakeholders of the organization want? Personally I want an organization that has zero tolerance for the #### that Peters did.
I like you as a poster but you are also one of the worst culprits.
I know. That was meant as a sincere apology.
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