[News] Bill Peters resigns as head coach. No longer part of Flames org. Ward interim HC

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by AC

Those were some terrible questions from the various media.

Was coming to say the exact same thing. The one about “why wasn’t the word racism used” was clearly meant to box Treliving in and paint him in a bad light.

[Naitix]

Peters's kid goes to and plays for a highly competitive hockey school in Calgary, must be tough for him right now when the whole school is talking about his dad. He's gonna get bullied and chirped pretty hard on the ice

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

So if Peters in the last 10 years reformed himself and never said another racist thing again he would keep his job today? I don't think so.

I think he had the last ten years to make amends with Aliu and elected not to.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I do. Even if the Flames wanted to keep Peters for some strange reason they could not because of the backlash as our society would not forgive them. In the same breath our society feels that racism in Justin's case was excusable. This is not right and if we are ever going to get rid of racism we have to drop the excuses for everyone regardless of their profession and standing.

I remember a little while back, Bill Maher said the N-word during his show. He ended up getting some heat for it but it eventually subsided and he continued on with his career. If you lean left, your racist behaviour generally gets a pass. Since Bill Peters is in an apolitical profession (for the most part) there is no pass. If you are looking for a rule or a guideline as to who can get away with what, that's it.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Tree is a decent human being.

Yep. He's just not very good at picking coaches and signing free agents. If he ever gets that right he could be a very good GM.

[hixxes]

What was Pinder getting at with his question? Challenging Tre as to whether he believed what Peters did was racist?

(I believe it was Pinder)

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I feel bad for Brad, there is a certain level of betrayal that he probably feels. These positions are high stakes and you stick your neck out for every hire. It must be difficult watching something like this blow up so dramatically.

Totally.

He knows how this looks for him and it's not great.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I think moving away from Peters is exactly the right move here but you have to admit if photographs of Peters in blackface surfaced instead of the incident of using the N-word we are probably still discussing his dismissal today. Yet the PM somehow keeps his job. We will one day have to find a happy medium here were people are all treated equally in cases like this.

Yes, everyone should be treated completely "equally", without any consideration for the circumstances of their misconduct, their response to that misconduct, the type and nature of their employment, and how their employment might fit into the larger structures of our entire ####ing democratic system. Yes, this is the best way to proceed. Well said.

[saXon]

Originally Posted by AC

Those were some terrible questions from the various media.

Jermaine isn't known for the best of questions. I find him and Francis don't pull their punches when questioning areas no one really needs to know about. Aka, how Treliving feels since he hand picked Peters, etc

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I do. Even if the Flames wanted to keep Peters for some strange reason they could not because of the backlash as our society would not forgive them. In the same breath our society feels that racism in Justin's case was excusable. This is not right and if we are ever going to get rid of racism we have to drop the excuses for everyone regardless of their profession and standing.

Ok seriously they aren’t even remotely comparable.

Justin made his mistakes in his teens and 20s. Peters was an adult. Trudeau’s incidents were longer ago than Bill’s. Trudeau was elected by voters not chosen by a select few individuals from a private organization. If there was a public vote on Bill Peters’ job the results may be way different. There’s no ethics clause in the PM’s nonexistent contract. Trudeau has a long history of championing equality, while this makes him a hypocrite, it also means there’s plenty of evidence that suggests he’s learned. No such evidence exists for Bill. The n word is worse, way worse, than blackface.

Trudeau’s re-election has no relevance here.

[Flame On]

Jesus can't believe the first thing I read in this thread is about Trudeau.

People talking about the rightness of Peters keeping his job? He resigned, probably the biggest cop-out for all parties. The Flames won't even say what he said was "racist". Not a very good wrap up.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by GeoRock

...The world we live in today... I'm sure glad I'm not in a professional position of social influence.

The only people who should worry about these things are those who have committed fireable offences in the past.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Jesus can't believe the first thing I read in this thread is about Trudeau.

People talking about the rightness of Peters keeping his job? He resigned, probably the biggest cop-out for all parties. The Flames won't even say what he said was "racist". Not a very good wrap up.

Part of the settlement is likely to be that the Flames are prohibited from making negative comments about peters publicly.

[CaptainCrunch]

Brad was very emotional in the press conference.


Brad got savaged by Jeff Merrick of the Hockey Central Panel. He basically wanted the Flames to accept full responsibility for the hire and that there needed to be a reckoning and that this whole thing was too lawyered up.



What an idiot.


The biggest thing to me is that Brad stated unequivocally that he considers the actions closed.


I would expect that the next step is between the league and Peters and we're looking at a long term ban for Peters and a requirement to apply for reinstatement.

[Rando]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Part of the settlement is likely to be that the Flames are prohibited from making negative comments about peters publicly.

Doubtful that would've been an issue anyway.

[RichKlit]

Originally Posted by Rando

New rule, you can't post cancel culture, outrage culture, or virtue signalling without punching yourself in the head.

Lame post.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Flame On

People talking about the rightness of Peters keeping his job? He resigned, probably the biggest cop-out for all parties. The Flames won't even say what he said was "racist". Not a very good wrap up.

They said his actions were repulsive. Pretty clear how they feel about it I think.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Even if they could I don’t think the Flames want the headline to read “Flames GM calls out coach he hired as racist”.

There’s no reason for the flames to play into that headline.

[R0taryRocket]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The only people who should worry about these things are those who have committed fireable offences in the past.

I would disagree. As you saw in the press conference, there are people literally foaming at the mouth trying to box people into saying something wrong. I gained a lot of respect for Treliving. He dealt with some of those questions very professionally.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Jesus can't believe the first thing I read in this thread is about Trudeau.

People talking about the rightness of Peters keeping his job? He resigned, probably the biggest cop-out for all parties. The Flames won't even say what he said was "racist". Not a very good wrap up.

I don't understand, how is it a cop-out? He's gone now.