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Old 11-27-2019, 07:37 PM   #81
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The point where he points out "A decade ago" seems like he is suggesting it was soooooo long ago
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Even Sportsnet thinks this apology is crap.
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:38 PM   #83
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Honestly, whether he apologized to his team or not afterward doesn't matter.
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Burke saying right now his attorneys likely drafted it this way because they have other issues yet. I don't think you can fault Peters for following the advice of his lawyers.
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I'm a bit confused about why people think it's obvious he should be fired for something he did long, long before he was employed by the team. Does that just make no difference as far as you all are concerned?

I don't really care if he's fired as I don't think he's shown himself to be a particularly good coach, but this does seem like an odd standard for firing people.
Another aspect is that his job entirely relies on buy-in from others. He has most likely entirely lost the room, and won’t be able to do his job effectively. Personally, he lost a lot of my respect a few days ago, and this letter release has also lost more of my respect. I was actually quite hopeful about him starting this season.

As others have mentioned, there are other layers as well. This apology is a veiled ‘self defence’ as he tries to explain his version of events, emphasize the length of time ago since it happened, etc.
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Burke saying right now his attorneys likely drafted it this way because they have other issues yet.
so some group photos with Justin on the way?
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:39 PM   #87
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As a lawyer I kind of get it, but I think it isn’t near good enough. I don’t think his advice was good.
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:39 PM   #88
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Peters is back in CGY. The Flames are on their way home from BUF. It would appear lawyers are continuing to do lawyerly things. There could be some form of closure by tomorrow but that’s not absolutely guaranteed just yet.
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Why issue the letter at all then if he can’t actually apologize due to legal issues?
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:39 PM   #90
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If it’s a letter to Treliving (and/or the organization generally), I’m not sure why he’d be apologizing to Aliu.

That said, he presumably sent it to Francis to disseminate more broadly. I’m not sure I understand that approach, but it’s better than nothing.
It's because he doesn't expect the organization will represent his position publicly the way he wants.

So he is getting his position out there himself so as to not be railroaded.
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Just leave you sad sack of crap. I dont want to see your ass slinking into the Dome ever again.
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Nothing endearing in that letter. The “a decade ago” used in the first sentence sets the tone as being about absolving himself rather than making amends.
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Burke think they will terminate the contract tonight. I don't know about that.
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Burke think they will terminate the contract tonight. I don't know about that.
McKenzie says it could be done by tomorrow.
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Even Sportsnet thinks this apology is crap.
They didn’t say that (at least from what I saw), just variations of what’s been said here; likely advice of lawyers etc.
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I'm a bit confused about why people think it's obvious he should be fired for something he did long, long before he was employed by the team. Does that just make no difference as far as you all are concerned?

I don't really care if he's fired as I don't think he's shown himself to be a particularly good coach, but this does seem like an odd standard for firing people.
I think the difference here is if the information came out that he did what he did, and indeed apologized immediately for it, this likely goes a different way.
If you cant hold yourself accountable until you get caught, then is the apology as meaningful?
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:41 PM   #97
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If you are in the "Peters ought to be fired" camp, I am curious to know what you would consider to be an appropriate apology that he could have submitted where he could keep his job? Does such an apology exist in today's cancel culture?
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:41 PM   #98
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Bla bla bla from Brad, no news
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Treliving hopes they will have an update tomorrow
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Burke think they will terminate the contract tonight. I don't know about that.
You could fire him and still negotiate a settlement. I think that’s possible tonight.
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