TSN: 2 teammates independently corroborate Akim Aliu's allegations against Peters

[Johnhitbox]

Originally Posted by stone hands

welp, goodbye peters

Yeah, that’s not good.

Who wants to start the new head coach topic?


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[Torture]

Dead man walking. Who comes in as interim coach to save the season?

[TheIronMaiden]

Well there ain't nothin to it, Gangster rap made him do it.

[Rando]

Originally Posted by MrMike

^ If he said he was sick of the music with having that word as a lyric, not saying is as the type of music, and it just came out wrong?

No... that's not what the TSN article said at all.

[bubbsy]

ya, I don't understand the context argument at all. Unless perhaps Peters was straight reciting rap lyrics that had the word when trying to justify the playing (or not playing ) of the certain music (which is also not really acceptable, just ask Kendrick Lamar - though I have my opinion on that whole fiasco), I don't think there is ANY understandable reason for him to use the word.

Using the N word at the workplace, regardless of context, would absolutely be reported to HR and be punishable. The ONLY circumstance I can think of where he could be truly innocent in all this (assuming the player isn't just lying, which of course is plausible at this stage) is if Peters stated "don't play music that has <N-word> in it here". But even then, if he's so concerned about the use of the word, then he wouldn't utter the word itself when making his point.

[Huntingwhale]

Jesus Peters. And to think I was ready to vote for you for mayor if you ever ran for it...

I was willing to wait it out and give Peters the benefit out a doubt if he apologized. But clearly sounds like he's got some old school racism stuck in his bones. No place for that on the Flames, let alone in our Canadian society.

The man went from being a hero last season to an absolute loser in the blink of an eye. Good riddance.

[Johnhitbox]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Well there ain't nothin to it, Gangster rap made him do it.

Too soon.


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[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by troutman

Abuse of employees is not acceptable, whether or not it is racist.

Originally Posted by Textcritic

And so what if the list is long? It’s becoming clear that what is happening now is part of a systemic, cultural shift. If nearly every coach in the NHL is guilty of emotionally abusing his players, then they should all be reprimanded. The message here is that what was tolerated for decades is not okay, and the way to fix it is to cut it out.

Abuse is NOT ok, nowhere did I advocate that...I am saying be careful of the fly by's that are going to happen. The dude runs by with no story and no context, just "treated terrible". Who said anything about accepting emotional abuse or if there even was emotional abuse? Is negative feedback emotional abuse?

Player can been mad because they felt he deserved more ice time, because they got cut, many other reasons. Pretty big leap to go to emotional abuse IMO.

I am not defending Peters because I have no clue...I am just saying don't believe every story that comes out of the wood work without context.

If Peters emotionally abused anyone or made the comments he is accused of he deserves his fate 100%.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Torture

Dead man walking. Who comes in as interim coach to save the season?

Huska probably takes over for now.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

News Update

TSN has been able to independently corroborate Aliu's story with two of his teammates

NSFW!

https://www.tsn.ca/akim-aliu-speaks-...ters-1.1403974

a. So just like a lot of us thought it went down. In fact a combination of them.
b. Good on Dowling.
c. Peters was a 45 year old guy at the time I think. Not a kid. And it wasn't even provoked by a loss of temper - he walks in, drops the bomb, walks out. Doesn't apologize after for a loss of control, doesn't offer any ignorance defence.

He's done.

[Flames1217]

A season going bad has just gotten way worse.

Looks like we are going to hire yet another head coach that this team will block out in a season and a bit.

Not cool Peters, not cool.

[Madman]

Originally Posted by DJones

Ah right, always mix those two up. But ya, if he used it as an adjective or quoted a song 10 years ago. Give an apology and be done with it. Honestly I can't even pretend to be outraged by that.

Now I'm picturing Peters trying to quote Real N*** Role Call with Ice Cube haha. I loved that song but god damn is it not one to sing along too.

[DJones]

Ooh, mixed in some homophobia too.

First sentence was fine, that was what I expected but the 2nd comment crossed a line.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by DJones

Ooh, mixed in some homophobia too.

First sentence was fine, that was what I expected but the 2nd comment crossed a line.

First sentence was not fine you goofus, it was racist as ####.

The fact that you refuse to see it that way makes me think you're a racist.

[The Boy Wonder]

Bye Bye Peters

[Ashasx]

Impressive work by TSN to get corroboration so quickly.

So disappointed. Just awful all around.

[JurassicTunga12]

What a shame. Damn. Who are some good coaches out there to replace Peters for this team?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

ya, I don't understand the context argument at all. Unless perhaps Peters was straight reciting rap lyrics that had the word when trying to justify the playing (or not playing ) of the certain music (which is also not really acceptable, just ask Kendrick Lamar - though I have my opinion on that whole fiasco), I don't think there is ANY understandable reason for him to use the word.

Using the N word at the workplace, regardless of context, would absolutely be reported to HR and be punishable. The ONLY circumstance I can think of where he could be truly innocent in all this (assuming the player isn't just lying, which of course is plausible at this stage) is if Peters stated "don't play music that has <N-word> in it here". But even then, if he's so concerned about the use of the word, then he wouldn't utter the word itself when making his point.

I've heard a guy at work (well, an after work thing) do exactly this, though he wasn't quoting a particular song - he was saying "it's all N---- this...". But he got an immediate reaction and then, I understand, a reprimand from HR.

"N music" is as bad as calling someone the N word. Especially given who was playing it.

[direwolf]

Yup, incredibly disappointing to say the least.

[macker]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Well there ain't nothin to it, Gangster rap made him do it.

nm