[OOT] October 8 with seven games.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Joborule

So by default if you trade Monahan for say Ryan Reaves, and Flames win the cup although Monahan scores 30 this season, and Reaves score 10, you'll still consider it a good trade?

Give me a break. They're not mutually exclusive. It's still possible to make bad trades, while still having overall success. This is asset management we're talking about here.

If you trade Janko for Carey Price it would be a bad deal for the Flames because Janko would score more goals

Your logic

[savemedrzaius]

Hah！

I just saw Reimer put up 47 saves against the Panthers for the Canes! Love that.

So far Bob ain't looking so hot. What is this? The first year of a 7 year deal?

[powderjunkie]

The ultimate goal is winning the cup? Balderdash, it's far more important to be visually better.

[dino7c]

Asset management lol...any team could have had Neal this summer by simply taking his contract. No takers

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Joborule

Flames could win the cup, and it still wouldn't be a good deal if Neal scores 30 goals.

If Lucic's presence helps them win the Cup and the Oilers still miss the playoffs then yes it is a good deal.

It's not shocking at all that a player's point production would increase on a worse team with a bigger role.

[OutOfTheCube]

There’s always gonna be some hack dumping in 20-30 goals with McDavid. Heck we just saw it... see: Chiasson, Alex. It’s the new “playing with the Sedin’s”. It just happens to be Neal right now, and guess what... he wouldn’t have done it in Calgary.

[hwy19man]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The Bruins are up 4-2 in Vegas

Marchand and Pastrnak each have three points with less than four minutes left in regulation time, 4-3 now.

[RedHawk12]

Neal was never going to be a 30 goal scorer here. He didn't fit well in the top 6 at all and he can't carry his own line. He can flourish playing triggerman with McDavid but he was never going to do that here.

On a side note, I liked Lucic tonight. Sure he didn't score 4 goals but his fight with MacDermid and hits on Martinez really turned the game around and gave us a point I don't think we deserved.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by dino7c

If you trade Janko for Carey Price it would be a bad deal for the Flames because Janko would score more goals

Your logic

If we trade a 2nd round pick for a 5th round pick but still win the Stanley Cup it’s still a bad trade.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

If we trade a 2nd round pick for a 5th round pick but still win the Stanley Cup it’s still a bad trade.

Come on man, not the same at all

The scenario was the Flames winning the cup with Lucic in the lineup contributing (hint: goals aren't the only way to contribute)

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Flames fans are obsessed with the Oilers
Oiler fans are stuck in the past
Jets fans wanna fight with everyone
Montreal fans are entitled
Toronto fans are homers who barely know anything outside their team
Canuck fans are bandwagon jumpers who literally burn their city down when things don't go their way
Sens fans are nothing. No one cares about Sens fans

These are the truths of Canadian fan bases.

Sens fans? Are there Sens fans? Have you seen one?

[N-E-B]

I think we’d be lying if we said we expected Lucic to outscore Neal this year. I also think we’d be lying if we said Neal would have bounced back here. He wasn’t a fit. Teams trade because both teams feel the deals will benefit their teams. Neal might pot 20-25 goals this year but that doesn’t matter. He wasn’t going to do it on the third line here, and no, it wasn’t Peters fault. Neal was awful. Good luck to him but good bye.

We need to move on.

[getbak]

Sharts are 0-4 to start the season. So, that's nice.

They have a -12 goal differential. No other team is in the double digits either positive or negative.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Come on man, not the same at all

The scenario was the Flames winning the cup with Lucic in the lineup contributing (hint: goals aren't the only way to contribute)

Well, since the Flames haven’t yet won the cup Schroedinger’s Neal suggests that the Flames could win the cup with Neal too.

Wonder what Holland could get for Neal just 3 games in, man?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Joborule

Flames could win the cup, and it still wouldn't be a good deal if Neal scores 30 goals.

Do not discount the importance of goals a player can produce. Trading him for a player who can't contribute offensively is bad asset management. That trade was under assumption that Neal wouldn't get his offensive prowess back. Neal is showing thus far that may have been foolish thinking.

I don't believe this is at all true. After the trade Treliving spoke a lot about Neal getting more opportunity in Edmonton, about his being a poor fit in Calgary, and how Lucic addressed a need he could not fill. The entire reason for attaching the condition of a third-round pick on the deal was made precisely because the Flames saw the likelihood of Neal regaining some of his scoring touch. Lots of posters here have spoken about how they expect him to score +10 or +!5 this year.

The trade was under the assumption that Lucic and his terrible contract were more valuable to the Flames than James Neal. That is all.

[Textcritic]

double post

[Tsawwassen]

Final scores
http://sportsstats.cbc.ca/news/NHL-R...ate=10-08-2019
https://scores.nbcsports.com/nhl/sco...p?day=20191008

The Jets get a road win with inexperienced defense that scored 3 goals. Scheifle and Laine each had 3 assists.

Can't believe the Ducks are 3-0, they beat Detroit.

Reimer was the show against his former team as he made 47 saves.

[TheIronMaiden]

Well it's confirmed. The Ducks and the Oilers are the best team in the Pacific, and the Sharks are bottom feeders due to finish last in the league.