Alberta Election Thread - Election Day April 16 2019

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Charles Adler has Kenney on the radio right now. Riveting stuff, Kenney not apologizing for his past work in San Fransisco, and Adler slamming him for not doing so. Also asking Kenney hardball questions I don't thinks encountered in an interview format yet.

And? When is Notley coming up? Has she apologized?

[peter12]

Adler is tearing Kenney up. You almost have to admire Kenney for taking this interview with a purportedly ideologically friendly media outlet, but knowing he will get absolutely ripped to pieces.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

And? When is Notley coming up? Has she apologized?

9:05 mountain time, hopefully Adler does push her on how Oil friendly she is.

[GaiJin]

Originally Posted by peter12

Adler is tearing Kenney up. You almost have to admire Kenney for taking this interview with a purportedly ideologically friendly media outlet, but knowing he will get absolutely ripped to pieces.

I think Adler lost a lot of listeners in Alberta with his lame name calling, that was totally uncalled for by anyone, let alone someone who is supposed to be a seasoned broadcaster.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GaiJin

I think Adler lost a lot of listeners in Alberta with his lame name calling, that was totally uncalled for by anyone, let alone someone who is supposed to be a seasoned broadcaster.

Name calling?

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Name calling?

Maybe the "Why are knuckledraggers attracted to your party?" is what he's calling name calling?

I thought it was a good question

[Dion]

I attended a candidates forum in Nanton this evening for the Livingston MacLeod region. The community hall was packed with people standing 2 deep on the sides and in the back. There were 6 parties at this forum, NDP, UCP, AB, Lib, Green and AB Independence.

I felt bad for the AB party candidate as most of the questions were directed at the NDP or UCP. That said all parties were invited to answer any questions brought forward.

Questions raised were on the economy, jobs, carbon tax, gsa, mental health and the negativity used by parties in this election. A good variety of answers were given and much appreciated by the audience.

The NDP guy tried to defend the demonization of a person but got roundly booed by the audience. People are generally not happy with the negativity and said parties should focus more on defending their platforms and telling us what they are going to do for us.

The downside was it got heated at times and people were yelling snide remarks at the NDP candidate. Sadly the moderator did nothing to stop this.

In the end they had to cut short the question and answer period as they were running out of time. It was good to see a packed hall and people taking an interest in what candidates had to say.

[Dion]

I forgot to add that I was quite surprised that nobody asked questions about the supposed lake of fire comments and the problems with Kenney and his leadership vote. There was a genuine concern about the economy and it seemed as if that issue was of greater importance than the UCP and it's internal problems.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

Looks like the NDP campaign to focus the attention of the debate on anything but their abysmal fiscal and economic track record is working.

I wanted to go back to this, because I think it illustrates the issue for a lot of voters at this point. It’s really terrible that the choice we have is between a party which has a bunch of zealots who care so much about people’s sexuality and who they choose as mates or a party that has this disastrous economic policy. It’s basically a no-win scenario.

The polls might or might not be accurate about who’s likely to form government, but it’s clear that people are most concerned about the economy, pipelines (whether that’s a provincial issue or not), and jobs. Every single poll says those are the top issues. And yet we’re bombarded with discussions about GSAs and LGBTQ rights and things like that. It’s just so frustrating.

I do think that most Albertans couldn’t care less about the sexual orientation of others, or the gender they identify as or things like that. Of course there is a small minority on either side that is fixated on this topic. I guess what I’m getting at, is that if/when we elect a UCP majority, people shouldn’t think “what a bunch of Neanderthals, and instead realize that people have two poor choices here that can reasonably form government. I personally have not decided what to do with my ballot, but it’s certainly not because the choices are all amazing and I can’t decide on that basis!

[OMG!WTF!]

I really do wish and honestly think that there should be a none of the above option. If None wins, everyone is canned and we go back to choosing new leaders and candidates and trying again in 6 months. Not sure what to do in the mean time though. Maybe suck up to Saskatchewan and get them to do our accounting for a while.

[Mr.Coffee]

I think at this point I am genuinely concerned with Kenney’s competency. This election was a slam dunk and here we are. This is a tap in Jason, Jesus Christ.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5129360/j...th-homophobic/

You have the right locked up. Time to start moving center as you head to the election. Easy peasy. But no he can’t resist showing us what a poor politician he is.

[Ozy_Flame]

I can't believe it's 2019 and we have a party that is likely going to win with a possible Education Minister that delivers sermons comparing homosexuality love to pedophilia.

Kenney dismisses it as "apologized for", but Smith is a grown man with an upbringing in the church, apologized "if people are offended" (not a true apology), and also introduced a paper to to the Wildrose caucus only a few years ago entitled "Should Christian public schools be able to fire a homosexual teacher that claims to be homosexual?" in which he writes that independent and religious schools have the right to dismiss based on moral grounds.

This is a man that Brian Jean dismissed as too extreme.

And this is just one - one candidate - among many that have already been called out for various bozo eruptions, something Kenney couldn't respond to appropriately yesterday to a national audience on Charles Adler's show.

This is 2019. WTF.

[PsYcNeT]

Quit deflecting from the economy you guys, the UCP will undoubtedly be reputable stewards of the economy based on [shuffles papers for 6 months until the election]

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

You have the right locked up. Time to start moving center as you head to the election. Easy peasy. But no he can’t resist showing us what a poor politician he is.

As I said earlier, I think Kenney genuinely believes he has this thing locked up, so his main concern at this point is preventing another splintering of the right by keeping his right wing appeased with gestures to red meat conservatism.

There's also the likelihood that this is just who Kenney is. I expect he'll be the most dogmatic premier this province has had in a long time.

[RedHot25]

About the interview - I've heard that Kenny said something about how he's attacked by Rebel media everyday??

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Quit deflecting from the economy you guys, the UCP will undoubtedly be reputable stewards of the economy based on [shuffles papers for 6 months until the election]

Shall we anoint May or June as "Double Meat" month? We should also get to pick our jobs due to so many job opportunities that come with a UCP win. I want to be "Senior Horgan Face Analyst" in which I get to submit reports on Horgan's facial expressions when he capitulates his province's demands to Kenney's charismatic convincing of pipelines through the Lower Mainland.

[The Big Chill]

How is Mandel in a debate? I think AP has a huge opportunity tonight. Albertans are crying out for a party that can pull away from all this crap and get back on track. AP could be that option for a lot of people if Mandel can convince them that they are an actual viable option.

I hope he crushes it and starts to gain some momentum. I'm sick of having to choose between basic human rights vs basic budgeting.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

How is Mandel in a debate? I think AP has a huge opportunity tonight. Albertans are crying out for a party that can pull away from all this crap and get back on track. AP could be that option for a lot of people if Mandel can convince them that they are an actual viable option.

I hope he crushes it and starts to gain some momentum. I'm sick of having to choose between basic human rights vs basic budgeting.

I think this could be the way to go for people in this camp and in two Calgary ridings this could even be a good strategic vote for that viewpoint.

Let me paint the following scenario: Assuming the UCP take a good licking in the polling for this, they could be in a situation where the NDP has Edmonton solid, The UCP has rural Alberta save for 2-3 ridings, and with Calgary as the battleground in the race to get to 44 seats for a majority. To win a majority the NDP would have to basically get all but 2-4 seats in Calgary. Greg Clark, and Rick Fraser from the Alberta party can be in the middle between a majority for either party and we could get a BC situation where they hold the balance of power in a minority government either UCP or NDP.

Honestly that might be the best outcome this election. Any bills that are awful from a conservative perspective or a NDP perspective wouldn't get through those two. Maybe even add Derek Fildebrandt (he's polling well in Chestermere /Strathmore) and you could have a minority government that blunts the worst of both leading parties.

[Ozy_Flame]

I'd be very happy with the AP holding the balance of power and keeping the big two in check.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I'd be very happy with the AP holding the balance of power and keeping the big two in check.

I'm not sold on the Alberta party as a whole, but Greg Clark and Rick Fraser in my mind are quality MLAs and good people.