[PGT] Canucks 5 Flames 2. Oh no! We suck again!

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Bennett is screwed in my opinion.

He's pushed to 4th line duty, no pp time. He's not going to get the opportunity to show anything, we'll all piss and moan about the lack of points.

Hope he asks for a trade. Classic example of the flames franchise's inability to develop a high end prospect.

I’m all for ####ting on the Flames talent development, but Bennett has been given chance after chance. He’s a bust. He just didn’t pan out. I don’t think the Flames can be blamed for that. He’s a player that dominated junior based on superior strength and skill. Everyone has that in the NHL and he seems to lack tha hockey IQ to be anything more than a bottom 6 player.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yeah not really a big fan of Janko, Bennett, and Dube all only getting around 9 minutes of ice time.

I'm willing to wait and see if that was just a result of so much powerplay time. It really through off the rythym of rolling four lines. If that was ever really a plan. We will see next game, I guess.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Gio can skate...he got beat by the guy coming out of the box after being on the ice for two minutes.

What goal are you blaming on Smith?

Giordano looked slow all.game. I'm blaming the first goal and the 4th goal on Smith. Considering he's the goalie I will.also blame the 2nd and 3rd in him also.

[soulchoice]

Originally Posted by Racki

I’d bet 5 bucks and a pack of smokes that we see Prout and/or Peluso Saturday night. Lazar goes down Peluso comes up?

As long as Prout or Peluso can take a regular shift and not be a detriment, they should be dressing one of them.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by JetsFlamesFan

What's with all the Bennett hate? He's only 18 years old, or 19 or 20 or whatever. There are a lot of guys with a lot fatter paychecks and expectations of them that they did not fulfill in that debacle of a game. It's not Sam Bennett's fault that we suck...crack's me right up, there's plenty of blame to go around.

The pushback is because of the Bennett fanboy that says he was awesome every game. He was meh, like many others.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Bennett is screwed in my opinion.

He's pushed to 4th line duty, no pp time. He's not going to get the opportunity to show anything, we'll all piss and moan about the lack of points.

Hope he asks for a trade. Classic example of the flames franchise's inability to develop a high end prospect.

All of the Flames' own first round picks since 2009 are in the NHL. I'm not sure if this is the problem.
The Flames are definitely bad at developing goaltenders, but the same can't be said for forwards.

Bennett has had a lot of opportunities in the last 4 years. Compare him to Gaudreau, who forced his way onto the top line during his rookie season.

[JetsFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Thought Boomer and Rhett talking about how we were always making excuses for the team last year was a good point this morning.

No excuses this season.

Smith lost the goalie battle.

Flames lost the special teams battle horrifically.

Flames possessed the puck and did nothing with it.

They deserved to lose, and they lost.

Shh, they'll ban you. Like they banned me for saying the Ducks were the better team when they swept us.

[calf]

Should probably consider banning Fortnite on road trips.

[Strange Brew]

Their goalie played better than ours.
Their special teams were better than ours.

You can’t win in the NHL when these two things happen. I suspect the advanced stats will favor the Flames but it’s irrelevant when the above two things happen.

Those two things can turn around Saturday.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

I'm willing to wait and see if that was just a result of so much powerplay time. It really through off the rythym of rolling four lines. If that was ever really a plan. We will see next game, I guess.

Once the power play has gone 0-4, that line should of been the power play.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Giordano looked slow all.game. I'm blaming the first goal and the 4th goal on Smith. Considering he's the goalie I will.also blame the 2nd and 3rd in him also.

Lol blame the goalie for a long 2 on 1 with a perfect shot and a break away

[Racki]

Nm

[smiggy77]

Originally Posted by Kovaz

You'd think Bennett's biggest fan would understand how +/- isn't a direct measure of a player's quality.



Just for fun, Lindholm's 4 minuses came from:

1) Covering his guy while the other 4 flames screw up their coverage and leave Goldobin open

2) Making a nice defensive play to take away a pass to Granlund, only for the other 2 forwards to overskate the puck and Valimaki to leave the net uncovered.

3) Winning a puck battle behind the net, giving it to Monahan who promptly turns it over

4) Being on the ice when Gaudreau turns the puck over for the empty netter



Lindholm wasn't to blame for any of the 4. He was solid backchecking early and had a few decent zone entries while Gaudreau and Monahan were asleep at the wheel in the first 40.

Anyone who judges a player based on +/- is a nut. Now it all makes sense with this crazy Bennett talks lol

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Lol blame the goalie for a long 2 on 1 with a perfect shot and a break away

Yes I am. Not one timely save.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Came to see hilarious over-reaction.

Leaving satisfied.

You're satisfied with a 0-7 PP?

Okay then

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by JetsFlamesFan

Shh, they'll ban you. Like they banned me for saying the Ducks were the better team when they swept us.

Lol. If it’s so horrible here, just leave.

[---Hatrick---]

The only positive I drew from that performance was Valimaki. Thought he played a really good game and certainly looked like he belonged. It’s crazy how much better he has looked since his first pre season game. A couple pre season games in, I thought he looked destined for the AHL for at least a season, but did he ever improve since then.

[DomeFoam]

Bennett Janko and Dube didn't see the ice enough for a proper assessment, can't put any blame game on 9 minutes of ice time.

This one is on the powerplay, killed our momentum entirely.

Lindholm and Czarnik were contributing positively, great puck possession and decision making especially for Lindholm, he just seems to have a slick confidence in his puck control and playmaking ability.

Dube and Valimaki were great, you notice both when they're out there almost immediately. Valimaki made some great passes, especially the one to spring Dube on the breakaway, and he almost had a beautiful one timer goal in the third there by the faceoff circle. Really excited about those two.

Monahan and Gaudreau didn't lead this team. Gaudreau started making real plays towards the end when he began being his elusive self and walking the Canucks D. Has to continue to be himself in all game situations instead of forcing passes.

Overall not impressed but I have a good feeling they will be merciless on Saturday against a Canucks team that was opportunistic and undisciplined.

[Racki]

Originally Posted by Racki

I’d bet 5 bucks and a pack of smokes that we see Prout and/or Peluso Saturday night. Lazar goes down Peluso comes up?

Originally Posted by Wolfman

For what? To settle a score with Gudbranson? I doubt it.

So we’re on then - 5 bucks and a pack of smokes.

[bubbsy]

Im happy for the canucks and pettersson. I hope he is able to lead this rebuilding team to a 20th overall finish in the standings