2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Could the Flames make a (sign &) trade for William Karlsson?

No. Karlsson is going to be a part of that team for a long time.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I think the Flames end up with a RH shooting C that played in Boston last season...but I dont believe it will be Krecji.

I agree, Wingels could be a helluva pick up.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Insider trading:
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider...anders~1417629


Leafs are trying to get a discount on Marner.
Dreger says Marner has the clout to negotiate a deal similar to Eichel's.
Expect a battle between the Leafs and Marner over the next contract

We talk a lot about the Oilers cap hell, but the Leafs are going to have a lot of trouble with this core dollar wise.


As much as people are saying, the Cap is going to go to $80 million +, players and their agents aren't dumb, its likely if the cap goes up that much, player demands are going to go up proportionally.


Right now the Leafs have 22 million dollars in cap space on a 75 million dollar cap. They have 10 forwards and 4 defensemen under contract, their big signing is Nylander, who I expect is going to push for $7 million bucks.


Next year is the equivalent of nuclear Armageddon for the Leafs, with Mathews and Marner coming up to RFA, If Marner and Mathews have a monster season, you're probably looking at Mathews 12 and Marner 9 to 10.



All of these teams and fans that talk about turbo sucking and accumulating all of these top draft picks, and then react in shock when their window slams shut quicker due to cap constraints.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Im not here to make friends. Im also not going to try and make crap into rainbows

No. You are clearly only interested in just making crap.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

We talk a lot about the Oilers cap hell, but the Leafs are going to have a lot of trouble with this core dollar wise.


As much as people are saying, the Cap is going to go to $80 million +, players and their agents aren't dumb, its likely if the cap goes up that much, player demands are going to go up proportionally.


Right now the Leafs have 22 million dollars in cap space on a 75 million dollar cap. They have 10 forwards and 4 defensemen under contract, their big signing is Nylander, who I expect is going to push for $7 million bucks.


Next year is the equivalent of nuclear Armageddon for the Leafs, with Mathews and Marner coming up to RFA, If Marner and Mathews have a monster season, you're probably looking at Mathews 12 and Marner 9 to 10.



All of these teams and fans that talk about turbo sucking and accumulating all of these top draft picks, and then react in shock when their window slams shut quicker due to cap constraints.

I agree with all this Captain although I don’t really follow the Leafs all that closely. Whereas the Oilers overpaid Draisaitl and Lucic was only going to be a long term problem, where have the Leafs gone wrong? Seems this is increasingly a league where top tier players get paid big $’s so you need value elsewhere.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

This times a million! So many homer posters on here. Delusional. And im not on here bashing the flames im just being realistic. I want the flames to be goor but they just arent good. We need a minimum of one proven top 6 forward to make the playoffs, two to be a real threat. And for the young guys to make strides

You crap on the Flames, their players and the fans on this board. Your posting history proves it out. Just a not a good contributor. Here's a sample of your most recent contributions...

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

This times a million! So many homer posters on here. Delusional. And im not on here bashing the flames im just being realistic. I want the flames to be goor but they just arent good.

Crapping on posters. Not bashing the Flames? Lets see...

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Take away johnny, mony, and tkatchuk and we have nothing for forwards. Backlund is a two way 3rd liner we wont win a cup with him as our 2c. Lol our forward group is pretty atrocious

Crapping on the players. Hyperbole

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Having him in the roster the last couple years has sure done wonders for us we trade him for someone like mark stone then you put andersson with gio. Gio is so good he can make any defenceman look like a hamilton. Making no trades makes us a bottom 5 team.

Crapping on the team again. Crapping on Hamilton's role on the standings. Exaggerating the crappiness of the team (hint we weren't close to bottom 5 last year despite having a bottom 5 coach).

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

I find it funny how many homer posters are on this forum. Hamilton is goos but we need to improve our forwarda drastically. Our forwards besides mony and jonny were arguably the worst in the entire league. We have to make a move and mark stone is elite when it comes to producing offense, which we desperately need.

Crapping on the posters again. Crapping on the forwards again. Using hyperbole again to do it.

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

We missed the playoffs last year and apparently our team is loaded with excellent outstanding players. I get such a laugh reading these posts

Mocking posters and crapping on the team again

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Cant believe posters are saying they wouldnt want vanek. Outsife of johnny and mony, we have one of the worst forward groups in the entire nhl. Vanek would automatically be our first line RW.

Crapping on the forwards yet again. Ridiculous hyperbole yet again. Disbelief that posters wouldn't want a soft, inconsistent scoring winger that a lot of teams haven't wanted.

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Gojetsgo has got to be banned. Horrible poster and only tries to pick fights on the internet. One tough dude

Crapping on another poster. Calling for them to be banned.

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Like why would he want to come here? Its freezing cold all winter. Its a small city. We just missed the playoffs. I cant understand how some posters would think he possibly would want to come here of all places. Especially having grown up in eastern canada. We are probably one of the last places he would want to come

Crapping on the city and team.

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Giopm is the coolest of cool. Also spends about 14 hours a day sitting on here acting big and mean. What a life lol i lsave lives for a living by the way

Crapping on another poster.

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Best i can do...? How about contribute to the thread. Go be a keyboard warrior somewhere else

Crapping on another poster. Where are your contributions bro?

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Cant wait for the flames to suck again next year under new coaches and for people to realize on here we simply dont have a good enough team

Crapping on the team and fans. Hoping they suck again so you can be right about how bad they suck.

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Lets just keep the same team and hope for better results -every cp poster

Hyperbole about posters and crapping on them again. Pretty sure all of us want the offence upgraded. But you make it out like you're the only one who does and everyone else is a delusional idiot.

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Would love to see the flames blow it up completely and start a 5 year rebuild

What fan says this just as the team's core is entering their prime. You trolling us bro?

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

This team is simply not good enough. Ferland, backlund, frolik are not second line players. They are 3rd line players who can chip in on a cup contending team. Absolute hot mess of a team blow it up and rebuild

Ferland had a pretty decent year on one of the best offensive lines in the NHL. But to you he's a 3rd liner. Then you unpredictably crap on the team and call for a rebuild. Some kind of fan...

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

We have 3 guys win offensive talent. Monahan gaudreau and tkatchuk.

Hyperbole. Crapping on the players.

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Our forwards are talented at everything but offence and scoring goals. But their "goodness in the dressing room" makes up for it right?

Crapping on the forwards yet again.

You occasionally contribute something not resembling crap. But most of the time you're just a fountain of crap. Crapping on posters who disagree with you, crapping on the team, crapping on the forwards. Using hyperbole all the while.

This board could use less of posters like you IMO. What kind of fan just craps on his team all the time and then craps on other posters who don't believe the team is as crap as you do?

Your stream of negativity is tiresome.

Step up sir. Be a better poster. If you don't have something nice to say maybe don't say it 20 times?

[Strange Brew]

I don’t always agree with FDW but that was rather epic. Well done sir.

[Poe969]

THE WASHINGTON POST: Samantha Pell reports Washington Capitals general manager Brian MacLellan yesterday said he’ll be shopping goaltender Philipp Grubauer. The 26-year-old netminder is a restricted free agent with arbitration rights who believes he’s proven himself as an NHL starter.

MacLellan said he’s love to re-sign Grubauer but understands the goalie’s need to be in a larger role. “The New York Islanders, Buffalo Sabres, Philadelphia Flyers, Carolina Hurricanes and Calgary Flames are potential suitors for Grubauer,” said Pell.

What could the Flames offer for him? I think he'd be a great fit behind Smith and could possibly step in and be a legit #1 after he's gone allowing one of the prospects to step in and do what he's done, allowing the Flames to make a trade from a position of strength then.

With the Caps about to lose Carlson, maybe they'd want someone like Stone or maybe even Andersson.

[dammage79]

Would rather sign Hutton for free. The assets can be better spent elsewhere.

Unless it was a package like

gubaur
burakovsky

for Rittich/Gillies
and whatever.

I know the point of moving gurbaur is because samsonov is coming over but adding farm depth in either of our AHL guys would be a decent enough back up plan in case samsonov flatlines (highly doubtful)

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Would rather sign Hutton for free. The assets can be better spent elsewhere.

Unless it was a package like

gubaur
burakovsky

for Rittich/Gillies
and whatever.

Caps wont want another G back in a deal i dont believe.

they have Samsonov waiting in the wings.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Caps wont want another G back in a deal i dont believe.

they have Samsonov waiting in the wings.

Quoted me before I finshed editing lol. Yeah. I knew Samsonov was coming over but I don't they have any further depth beyond that off the top of my head.

[Poe969]

They'll want replacements for guys like Carlson who are going to cash in after winning the cup. They'll need some good roster guys, if they don't the no they can keep burakovsky, Wilson or someone else then they'll need good players to fill those spots.

I'd love for a deal to be made with them.

[iloveicedhockey]

Lebrun tweeted that while he doesn't know which way Tavares is leaning, it's uncanny how many execs from other teams have said they think he's staying put this week.

Lou going all Pacino from devils advocate.

[Nelson]

A trade with Washington for Grubauer and Burakovsky would require a lot from us. If they’re losing Carlson, they’re probably going to need a defenseman, likely a RH defenceman. Stone is not nearly enough. Hamilton is too much. I wonder if Treliving could talk about Brodie’s excellent in the right side.

[jschick88]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1007612588278968320

[David Struch]

Calgary Flames — Troy Brouwer
The 32-year-old saw a steady decline in production from 2016-17 to last season, posting only 22 points while averaging just under 14 minutes of ice per night. That is simply not enough offence for a forward owed $4.5 million over each of the next two campaigns.

The Flames have the pieces in place to try and make a run in an underwhelming Pacific Division, and the club is without its first- and second-round picks this year. The time to go for it in Calgary may be now, and saving three million dollars in cap space in each of the next two seasons will go a long way in providing the Flames the flexibility needed to make a splash via trade or free agency.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/cut...125200513.html

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by jschick88

https://twitter.com/user/status/1007612588278968320

Spezza is 35 already? F... I'm old.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by David Struch

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/cut...125200513.html

Please let this happen! Brouwer is not working out here. He seems like a good dude, so hopefully he gets a PTO somewhere else.

[GioforPM]

A buyout of Brouwer is really only merited if that cap space is needed badly. Which in turn means that the Flames are serious about a high priced acquisition, since at the moment they have a fair bit of room. Otherwise you don't do the buyout, not matter where Brouwer fits in or out of the lineup.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

A buyout of Brouwer is really only merited if that cap space is needed badly. Which in turn means that the Flames are serious about a high priced acquisition, since at the moment they have a fair bit of room. Otherwise you don't do the buyout, not matter where Brouwer fits in or out of the lineup.

I've made this point earlier but if he is in the tram there is going to be pressure to play him, and he will be a distraction as well as a team management obstacle.

He's not a warm enough body to justify keeping him around. He messes up line combinations, minutes and team leadership structure. The flames need more foot soldiers.