06-14-2018, 12:16 PM
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#381
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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The Oilers were busted doing this on HF so it wouldn't be a shocker if teams resorted to doing this kind of stuff. I can't remember an organization in such shambles like this. All the news continues to be bad news.
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06-14-2018, 12:17 PM
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#382
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by rotten42
Well based on your logic I could say that you drink to much and club baby seals for fun. The allegations are not substantiated but we should probably consider them anyway. This is the problem when you give weight to some "rumour" that has not established any credibility.
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This whole thread is casting judgement on the Hoffman's with allegations that are not substantiated at this point. Funny how the media works.
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06-14-2018, 12:20 PM
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#383
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
This whole thread is casting judgement on the Hoffman's with allegations that are not substantiated at this point. Funny how the media works.
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It's not just the media. A couple of hockey wives that know them backed her up.
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06-14-2018, 12:22 PM
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#384
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
This whole thread is casting judgement on the Hoffman's with allegations that are not substantiated at this point. Funny how the media works.
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When law enforcement is looking into the pill popping allegations you can get back to me.
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06-14-2018, 12:36 PM
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#385
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
When law enforcement is looking into the pill popping allegations you can get back to me.
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And what does "pill popping" even mean? My wife popped diclectin.  I think the suspect tweet talked about pain pills, but acetaminophen is OK (anti-inflammatories are not and obviously not opiods).
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06-14-2018, 01:36 PM
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#386
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
This whole thread is casting judgement on the Hoffman's with allegations that are not substantiated at this point. Funny how the media works.
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Funny how you're more focused on the "pill popping "angle, Monika.... er, I mean, CalgaryFan1988.
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06-14-2018, 01:41 PM
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#387
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by Otto-matic
I don't want a pissed off EK vs the Flames.
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If the Oilers get Hoffman, I hope we firesale anything we need to to get EK here.
A pissed off EK wanting to avenge his wife and son would be a fury that should only be taken out in the BoA.
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06-14-2018, 01:43 PM
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#388
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
This whole thread is casting judgement on the Hoffman's with allegations that are not substantiated at this point. Funny how the media works.
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Can you not see the difference in the weight behind the allegations?
One has made a sworn statement to a justice of the peace and has public support from other player's wives.
The other used a burner instagram account to comment on a grieving father's post.
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06-14-2018, 01:47 PM
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#389
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: In my office, at the Ministry of Awesome!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Can you not see the difference in the weight behind the allegations?
One has made a sworn statement to a justice of the peace and has public support from other player's wives.
The other used a burner instagram account to comment on a grieving father's post.
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Yeah, don't forget that the post he referenced is the exact harassment that Karlson's sworn statement is about.
Everyone: "Oh my god, what kind of monster would write such horrible tweets about someone/a thing like that"
CF1988: "Yeah, but guys, have you seen this tweet? Look at the horrible things this victim of harassment has done"
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06-14-2018, 01:48 PM
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#390
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Can you not see the difference in the weight behind the allegations?
One has made a sworn statement to a justice of the peace and has public support from other player's wives.
The other used a burner instagram account to comment on a grieving father's post.
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Of course, but the amount of name calling and one sided judgements in here without anyone being found guilty yet is just as unfair. Or am I the only one who sees that?
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06-14-2018, 01:49 PM
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#391
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Can you not see the difference in the weight behind the allegations?
One has made a sworn statement to a justice of the peace and has public support from other player's wives.
The other used a burner instagram account to comment on a grieving father's post.
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Well said sureLoss. This x100.
The differences between the two allegations are staggering. This has nothing to do with how the media works.
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06-14-2018, 01:51 PM
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#392
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: On your last nerve...:D
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Obviously it is one of Monika Caryk's alleged accounts. Doesn't mean her accusations hold no validity.
Funny how people believe what they want to believe, when there are no facts yet either way
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rotten42
Well based on your logic I could say that you drink to much and club baby seals for fun. The allegations are not substantiated but we should probably consider them anyway. This is the problem when you give weight to some "rumour" that has not established any credibility.
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Thank you for pointing out the massive lapse of logic in his statement, Rotten.
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
"Hey, some chick said some other chick is pill popping amongst other vile comments like hoping her unborn baby dies and her husband should be attacked and disabled and wouldn't be able to perform his job AND SHE MIGHT BE RIGHT ON THE MONEY and I'm giving the statements huge weight but DON'T DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY - I'm allowed to believe there is validity to Caryk's awful statements (cuz you say it's obviously her accounts) but NONE OF YOU CAN BELIEVE THERE ISN'T WITHOUT ALL THE FACTS, LOSERS."
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Really? 
Last edited by Minnie; 06-14-2018 at 01:58 PM.
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06-14-2018, 01:52 PM
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#393
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
Yeah, don't forget that the post he referenced is the exact harassment that Karlson's sworn statement is about.
Everyone: "Oh my god, what kind of monster would write such horrible tweets about someone/a thing like that"
CF1988: "Yeah, but guys, have you seen this tweet? Look at the horrible things this victim of harassment has done"
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All I really said Is wait until the facts come out before calling one a victim and one a witch..... but hey, put some words in my mouth why not?
This story can still take a lot of turns. A lot of facts still to come out.
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06-14-2018, 01:53 PM
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#394
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
The Oilers were busted doing this on HF so it wouldn't be a shocker if teams resorted to doing this kind of stuff. I can't remember an organization in such shambles like this. All the news continues to be bad news.
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Mark Spector = ChaoticOrange.
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06-14-2018, 01:54 PM
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#395
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2012
Location: The Kilt & Caber
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Of course, but the amount of name calling and one sided judgements in here without anyone being found guilty yet is just as unfair. Or am I the only one who sees that?
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So you respond by trying to focus more negativity on the alleged victim of this whole thing by using what look like false statements from an online troll? Seems like a strange way of combating judgements without anyone being found guilty.
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06-14-2018, 01:56 PM
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#396
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
All I really said Is wait until the facts come out before calling one a victim and one a witch..... but hey, put some words in my mouth why not?
This story can still take a lot of turns. A lot of facts still to come out.
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You may be right about more coming out but you need to step away from the discussion for a while because you are going to get buried on here very fast.
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06-14-2018, 01:56 PM
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#397
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Of course, but the amount of name calling and one sided judgements in here without anyone being found guilty yet is just as unfair. Or am I the only one who sees that?
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Saying "these are just allegations and nobody should rush to judgment" would be a fair statement to make if you hadn't already pulled a "both sides" argument by suggesting the pill popping comment was anything but defamatory.
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06-14-2018, 01:58 PM
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#398
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by sun
Millions and Francis both have anonymous accounts here where they ####talk their colleagues. A former NHL assistant coach. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more. Didn't Ryan Howse or some similar middling prospect sign up to defend himself? IAmNotKenKing is clearly Ken King, nice try username.
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IIRC, old time HFBoards mod Bicycle Repairman was outed as Dowbiggin back in the day.
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06-14-2018, 01:59 PM
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#399
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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If I'm going to legit accuse someone of "pill popping" out of some real concern I think I'd attach my name to my message.
Even then it'd be crass given the timing. Do we routinely say to the spouse of someone who died of lung cancer "well, if he hadn't smoked he'd be alive" at the funeral?
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06-14-2018, 02:02 PM
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#400
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Saying "these are just allegations and nobody should rush to judgment" would be a fair statement to make if you hadn't already pulled a "both sides" argument by suggesting the pill popping comment was anything but defamatory.
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I thought my hyperbolic comment about pill popping was self explanatory, quite frankly.
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