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Old 12-31-2017, 12:17 PM   #61
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Jagr is not a top 6 forward anymore, let's stop kidding ourselves here.
I don't think he is either, but you can't play him on the 4th with two other slowpokes
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Old 12-31-2017, 12:19 PM   #62
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Shoutout to Todd Button, has been killing it with drafts lately. Great progression from Mangiapane and 3 years after being a 6th round pick he's in the NHL, great job by him.
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I don't think he is either, but you can't play him on the 4th with two other slowpokes
I don't know. They've already done it for 3 games as it is.

For what it's worth, they all looked better with each other than Brouwer & Stajan looked without Jagr. And Jagr looked worse in the previous game playing on line 2.
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Shoutout to Todd Button, has been killing it with drafts lately. Great progression from Mangiapane and 3 years after being a 6th round pick he's in the NHL, great job by him.
Credit to Mangipane too. Kid had a fire in his belly from day #1. He's really put in the work.
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Old 12-31-2017, 12:38 PM   #65
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So stupid. This organization is becoming a real joke.
Give it a rest, would you?
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Old 12-31-2017, 12:44 PM   #66
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So stupid. This organization is becoming a real joke.
Where is this coming from?
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Old 12-31-2017, 12:46 PM   #67
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So stupid. This organization is becoming a real joke.
Quoted, just because.
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Where is this coming from?

I'm gonna guess it's born out of frustration.

The team was supposed to start "running" this year, instead they are falling flat on their faces without a 1st or 2nd round pick to cushion the blow in the spring.
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The fact that stajan still has a roster spot is a ####ing joke.
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I'm gonna guess it's born out of frustration.

The team was supposed to start "running" this year, instead they are falling flat on their faces without a 1st or 2nd round pick to cushion the blow in the spring.
Yeah. We get it.

It's neither intelligent or interesting to belly ache day after day. We're not even 1/2 way through the season.

Just stop already.

If the expectation was for the Flames to just have this meteoric rise to greatness, you were bound to be disappointed.
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The fact that stajan still has a roster spot is a ####ing joke.
Brilliant take. Thank you this.
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Old 12-31-2017, 12:59 PM   #72
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I always like the headlines with this particular Flames team. When the 'Flames recall...' someone, I always imagine Burke waking up from a slumber, shaking his head, and his eyes suddenly coming into focus.

'I gotta call Tre.'
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Old 12-31-2017, 01:06 PM   #73
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Two months later than deserved and he shouldn't play in the AHL again this season, even once Frolik is back.
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Two months later than deserved and he shouldn't play in the AHL again this season, even once Frolik is back.

Can we maybe see him in a couple games before he is annointed?
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I think the issue is who he is playing with, rather than how much. Pretty much setting him up for failure by playing him with those two guys.
Okay. Figured green text wasnt necessar but I was mistaken.
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not thrilled with his linemates, but gotta hope its just a way to ease him into the NHL and he'll get placed with better linemates once he gets his legs under him.

i am more hopeful that he gets a look on the 2nd pp unit as that unit has looked poor since losing Versteeg...
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Old 12-31-2017, 01:13 PM   #77
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Two months later than deserved and he shouldn't play in the AHL again this season, even once Frolik is back.
Funny. I remember the days when the red wings & the devils would call up players who were in the early to mid 20's and they could just step in and contribute. Flames fans would ask 'why don't we have that?'

It now seems like we do have that luxury where we can overcook guys in the minors so when they do come up, they're ready.
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Old 12-31-2017, 01:23 PM   #78
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Funny. I remember the days when the red wings & the devils would call up players who were in the early to mid 20's and they could just step in and contribute. Flames fans would ask 'why don't we have that?'

It now seems like we do have that luxury where we can overcook guys in the minors so when they do come up, they're ready.
There are apparently some stats that indicate that defensemen reach their peak in their early 20s, and forwards sometime in Bantam. Eatbread is near retirement age, now.
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Yeah. We get it.

It's neither intelligent or interesting to belly ache day after day. We're not even 1/2 way through the season.

Just stop already.

If the expectation was for the Flames to just have this meteoric rise to greatness, you were bound to be disappointed.
I don't think many (if any) were expecting a "meteoric rise".

But any expectations we did have were given a bump up when the GM himself dealt away our higher end draft picks proclaiming his own belief that this roster was capable of much more than being bottom half of the league standings by the new year.
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Brilliant take. Thank you this.
He's not wrong.... You seem overly sensitive about the complaining going on.

There's only 2 teams in the entire conference with less ROWs than thus flames team. This isn't just a function of inflated expectations.
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