07-01-2017, 02:21 PM
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#7141
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by New Era
So, free agent frenzy, and the Oilers do SFA. That is absolutely beautiful! Chia Pet knows how screwed his team is, so his big signing is - wait for it - Ty Rattie!!! Good job Chis. Hope you, and your Oiler sycophants, suck on that for years to come. You can't sign anything that addresses needs because of Connon Mc####face. Awesome stuff.
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Plus no one wants to go there to begin with unless they have exhausted all other options.
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07-01-2017, 02:32 PM
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#7142
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
The PA can make life tough for his agent, though.
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McDavid's agent is Bobby Orr, who belongs to one of the large agencies, I believe. I just don't see this happening.
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07-01-2017, 02:41 PM
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#7143
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Realistic
Other players could make him a target. If they think their future salaries could take a hit because of him, you never know what could happen.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
The PA can make life tough for his agent, though.
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
They can pretty much starve him out by steering players to other agents that are more pliable.
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This is all very unlikely. When Crosby signed his second contract his average annual salary of $8.7M was considered below market value, considering Ovechkin got $9.5M and Malkin got $8.7M a year later. 5 years later Malkin got a raise and player like Kane and toews make significantly more. Pat Brisson(crosby's agent) isn't having any difficulties getting work these days, coincidentally he also represents Kane and Toews.
The PA can't really hold the agents accountable because at the end of the day it's up to the players. Do you really think the PA are going to be going after Patrick Sharpe's agent for "letting him" sign the bargain basement deal with the Hawks today? The agents get paid a commission, do you really think they aren't trying to get their client the maximum out of every possible contract?
I get a lot of people don't like the PA, but some of the theories posted on here about how the PA tries to control things are completely out to lunch.
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07-01-2017, 02:51 PM
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#7144
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Franchise Player
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Neither McDavid, nor Bobby Orr, would take heat if he signed at a discount.
But he's not going to, so no worries
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07-01-2017, 02:58 PM
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#7145
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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I'm sure the McDavid thing is done, just waiting for that pesky national holiday to be done so they can make a big spectacle of the signing (Ala Gretzky who signed his contract at centre ice in the mid 80s).and have MacLean and Shannon MC the event.
Only question is if Dr. Drai will be there.
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07-01-2017, 03:08 PM
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#7146
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: A small painted room
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Or maybe they're shooting a new commercial with Mark messier!
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07-01-2017, 03:50 PM
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#7147
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by getbak
No, that couldn't have happened.
Skalbania owned the Indianapolis Racers of the WHA and had signed Gretzky as a 17 year-old. When it became clear the Racers weren't going to be one of the teams absorbed into the NHL, he sold Gretzky in an effort to make money to help the Racers finish the season.
The story goes that he had a deal in place with Pocklington, but offered to play a game of backgammon against the owner of the Jets with Gretzky on the line. If the Jets owner won, Skalbania would sell Gretzky's contract to the Jets. If Skalbania won, he would have received a percentage ownership of the Jets. The Jets owner declined the offer and Gretzky went to Edmonton.
Skalbania got involved with the Flames purchase more than a year after that all went down.
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That's an amazing story. Skalbania sounded like a gangster!
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Originally Posted by Biff
If the NHL ever needs an enema, Edmonton is where they'll insert it.
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07-01-2017, 04:09 PM
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#7148
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by calumniate
Or maybe they're shooting a new commercial with Mark messier!
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Hey Connor, Connor, its me Mess, can I borrow some cash.
See it carries on the whole creepy stalker feel of the first commercials.
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
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07-01-2017, 04:15 PM
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#7149
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy
Skalbania sounded like a gangster!
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*cough*
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07-01-2017, 04:20 PM
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#7150
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iggy_oi
This is all very unlikely. When Crosby signed his second contract his average annual salary of $8.7M was considered below market value, considering Ovechkin got $9.5M and Malkin got $8.7M a year later. 5 years later Malkin got a raise and player like Kane and toews make significantly more. Pat Brisson(crosby's agent) isn't having any difficulties getting work these days, coincidentally he also represents Kane and Toews.
The PA can't really hold the agents accountable because at the end of the day it's up to the players. Do you really think the PA are going to be going after Patrick Sharpe's agent for "letting him" sign the bargain basement deal with the Hawks today? The agents get paid a commission, do you really think they aren't trying to get their client the maximum out of every possible contract?
I get a lot of people don't like the PA, but some of the theories posted on here about how the PA tries to control things are completely out to lunch.
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Crosby signed one of the last of the back diving deals. A 12 year 104 million dollar deal was market value. So over the 10 years the contract is actually for he gets 10.4 per. Which is roughly one of the highest Salaries at the time and still amoung the highest now that back diving contracts were banned.
Iginla spoke of pressure to sign fair deals by the PA.
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07-02-2017, 12:52 PM
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#7152
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GGG
Crosby signed one of the last of the back diving deals. A 12 year 104 million dollar deal was market value. So over the 10 years the contract is actually for he gets 10.4 per. Which is roughly one of the highest Salaries at the time and still amoung the highest now that back diving contracts were banned.
Iginla spoke of pressure to sign fair deals by the PA.
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Ovi got more money than Crosby at the same time, granted at the time there was greater debate as to whom the better player was, most people would have concluded that they were fairly even. Your cap hit calculation is a little off, unless you think he plans on retiring at 35.
What does this have to do with the PA blacklisting or pressuring agents?
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07-02-2017, 12:53 PM
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#7153
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
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Now that they have made the playoffs and taken all the pressure off, it's time to bring the band back together!
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07-02-2017, 01:09 PM
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#7154
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: So Long, Bannatyne
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Now that they have made the playoffs and taken all the pressure off, it's time to bring the band back together!
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The band never left, my friend.
They were right there all along.
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07-02-2017, 01:14 PM
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#7155
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Franchise Player
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alright, let's go with: bringing them all back up on stage
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07-02-2017, 01:18 PM
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#7156
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
*cough*
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Tell me more!
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Originally Posted by Biff
If the NHL ever needs an enema, Edmonton is where they'll insert it.
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07-02-2017, 02:29 PM
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#7157
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central Alberta
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Lowe is weaving his magic behind the scenes!!! I hope they never get rid of this guy. He has been a blight on that organization ever since his playing days ended.
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Are the Oilers trying to set a record for most scumbags on the payroll??
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07-02-2017, 02:56 PM
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#7158
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by united
I think the sweet spot for most teams with Draisaitl would be $7.85 million x 5. Enticing to the player, Oilers overpay by at minimum $1 million/season, and you save a 1st-round pick in the unlikely scenario the Oilers decline to match. Either that or go $9.8 million x 5 and hope to hell the Oilers stick to their word by matching.
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I'm not sure I understand your last suggestion. A GM would throw out a purposely high offer and hope to hell they match? That same GM could offer nothing and then not have to hope to hell they match.
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07-02-2017, 02:59 PM
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#7159
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Norm!
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A lot of hockey pundants are going to look foolish again. Remember a few years ago when they were building something special up there and made fools out of themselves. Well just reading how awesome Chia has done since the end of the season given them high rankings in the power ratings, projecting cups.
The Oilers are weaker this year then last year. I hope they crash and burn, and I think they will.
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Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
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07-02-2017, 03:07 PM
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#7160
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
I'm not sure I understand your last suggestion. A GM would throw out a purposely high offer and hope to hell they match? That same GM could offer nothing and then not have to hope to hell they match.
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I think his point was to put the oilers in a situation they don't like. Sure it's a lower cap hit, but then they aren't able to buy any free agency years.
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