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Old 06-21-2017, 02:05 PM   #241
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In a lackluster draft year.
It's not that lackluster...

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So, if Kulak is indeed VGK's selection from Calgary, what would you have offered the Knights in exchange for them to forego his selection?

Again, this should tell you how valuable a player he is to the Flames.
The Flames are not really in a position to offer anything. The organizational depth is not such that the team can toss away draft picks or prospects to save a 23 year old non-roster player. The best result would be one of Stajan, Bouma, Brouwer being poached, effectively giving the Flames a leg up cap-wise.

Losing Kulak would just suck all ways around and there isn't much anyone can do about it being the reality of the situation.
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If Brouwer gets selected, NONE of you are allowed to complain if he subsequently has a return-to-form year.
Even if he does I'd still rather the cap space
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:06 PM   #244
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Dammit people!! Who did they take??
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:07 PM   #245
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Cap space is nice but it would all depend on what they do with it...putting 5M in the owners pocket doesn't help the Flames
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Bill Foley says Vegas has already signed two restricted free agents that they selected. One is reportedly Erik Haula from Minnesota.

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Bill Foley says Vegas signed two restricted free agents during their exclusive negotiating period.
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:07 PM   #247
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I've had Brouwer going in a tight race (maybe 25% chance) followed by Kulak, Shinkaruk, Chaisson, Bouma and maybe Stajan each at around 15%. Who knows...

Forgot about Engelland. Decent chance for him as well. Numbers don't add up...to hell with it.
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:08 PM   #248
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I won't even care if Kulak is picked. Don't think he has an NHL future.
What do you think about Curtis Lazar future?
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:08 PM   #249
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It's times like this that the Flames tight-ship around media leaks really annoys me.
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Vegas picked a couple UFA's, per Bill Foley, but haven't signed them. Still negotiating.

hmmm?
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What do you think about Curtis Lazar future?
I would bet a large sum of money he plays more NHL career games than Kulak
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What do you think about Curtis Lazar future?
I wasn't a huge fan of the trade when it went down but I'm willing to be patient. Anyone who is brought in by this management gets the benefit of the doubt from me.
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Cap space is nice but it would all depend on what they do with it...putting 5M in the owners pocket doesn't help the Flames
I assume they will buy Ken King a new pure gold, luxury bidet that sprays fresh ocean mist for his office.
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Vegas picked a couple UFA's, per Bill Foley, but haven't signed them. Still negotiating.

hmmm?
Quite possible they looked at the lists for Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver, saw a whole bunch of nope, and decided they'd rather have the negotiating window instead.
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Vegas picked a couple UFA's, per Bill Foley, but haven't signed them. Still negotiating.

hmmm?
Seems like a waste of a couple pics but one must be Russell since they don't want anything else from Oilers.
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:12 PM   #256
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Been told Brendan Gaunce will NOT be taken by Vegas in expansion draft. #Canucks

Sekeres reported it was down to Gaunce and Sbisa, this news points to Sbisa being selected. Benning lucks out
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Bill Foley says Vegas has already signed two restricted free agents that they selected. One is reportedly Erik Haula from Minnesota.

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Bill Foley says Vegas signed two restricted free agents during their exclusive negotiating period.
Wouldnt Leipsic from Toronto be the other? or did they just pick him and haven't technically signed him?
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If either of Stone or Versteeg are picked I won't be happy.
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:12 PM   #259
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The Flames are not really in a position to offer anything. The organizational depth is not such that the team can toss away draft picks or prospects to save a 23 year old non-roster player. The best result would be one of Stajan, Bouma, Brouwer being poached, effectively giving the Flames a leg up cap-wise.

Losing Kulak would just suck all ways around and there isn't much anyone can do about it being the reality of the situation.
So give up nothing, correct?
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Until tomorrow at 10AM... and Vegas can have prepared side deals.. So who knows!
The post mentioned that Raanta wasn't being picked by Vegas because he'd been traded to the Flames.

They can't trade him to the Flames without picking him.
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