[PGT] Flames fall apart, lose 4-3 to Ducks

[badradio]

Someone needs to sit Bartokowski down and teach him the system because he obviously doesn't know it. Everytime he gets the puck he gives it away or blasts it deep losing possession... I figured by now someone on the coaching staff would have caught this and told him that we don't just give up possession for no reason. That loss was his fault IMO, but this has been an on-going problem that needs to be addressed and maybe this will bring it into the limelight.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

Meh, whatever. All this game showed me is that the Ducks are beatable in a 7 game series. Really the only matchup I'm worried about is Chicago. I think we have a very good chance vs. Oilers, Anaheim or San Jose.

Why? Because we're deliberately lulling the Ducks into a false sense of superiority by losing to them?

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Meh, this is a great learning lesson.

We must be slow learners because the Ducks have been schooling us for a decade.

[heep223]

Rather play the Hawks than the Ducks. Bring em on!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I only read the first few comments, but my god, Flames fans are stupid.

Bartkowski had a hell of a game. He made every single great play you could imagine tonight, and it just didn't work out. Yeah, he fanned on a puck, but he got back easily to cover his man and prevent a goal. Engelland lost his man and that's all it took.

Honestly, the Flames deserved better. They had bad luck tonight. Elliott made 2 or 3 great saves, but other than that, he had a pretty quiet night.

To give credit where it's due, Fowler was amazing. I wonder how long until he's considered a top 10 d-man in the league. He made exceptional play after exceptional play.

That sucked, but I feel like the hockey gods owe use a win in Anaheim to break the curse. It's time. It's going to happen. Textcritic has predicted it, and he studies ancient texts and some other bull####, so I'm pretty sure it's legit.





Go Flames Go!

If that was a playoff preview, I'm all in. The Flames will take the Ducks in a 7 game series just purely due to speed. I think we can take anyone at this point.

Man you kind of opened yourself up to this but Bartkowski played only 13 minutes and turned over the puck twice resulting in goals against. Regardless of him skating well it can't be ignored that his two turnovers were the difference in the game. I mean if that's what you consider "a hell of a game" I would hate to see what you consider a poor game. You think the Flames deserved better after turning the puck over all night an leaving Elliott out to dry and make some ridiculous saves? They were terrible for a large part of the game and were full marks for the loss as the Ducks outshot and out-chanced them. This is why you never open up a post calling people stupid.

[bubbsy]

I thought the game emphasised why the ducks would win in any series vs the flames. They play on the edge on almost every play all over the ice and right on the line without getting penalized.

Flames 3rd pairing is going to be an extreme target come playoff time (duh.. is the case for every team, in every series). But I think flames 3rd pairing is more futile than most other playoff teams.

Flames have relied too heavily on goaltending for last while. High quality chances given up is a major concern. They are blowing any chance at an enviable 1st round matchup.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

I thought the game emphasised why the ducks would win in any series vs the flames. They play on the edge on almost every play all over the ice and right on the line without getting penalized.

Flames 3rd pairing is going to be an extreme target come playoff time (duh.. is the case for every team, in every series). But I think flames 3rd pairing is more futile than most other playoff teams.

Flames have relied too heavily on goaltending for last while. High quality chances given up is a major concern. They are blowing any chance at an enviable 1st round matchup.

Since the winning streak ended the team is 5-5 but more glaring is that they have let a lot of goals in despite getting good goaltending most nights. The team is playing exactly the way they opened up the season with poor passing and turnovers all over the ice. The goaltending is better now so instead of .350 hockey they can maintain .500 hockey playing like this. The way the team is playing right now will be lucky to win more than a single game in a playoff series as the team is starting to revert back to Hartley hockey.

[icecube]

Originally Posted by blender

Bennett next season. Book it.

I will book nothing. He's done little to impress me this whole season.

[Rejean31]

Let's not forget, another reason the Flames lost was that unlike another team that shall go nameless, the refs didn't magically gift us a powerplay in the last 2 minutes to help us tie the game up.

[BigFlameDog]

The last few games have been concerning regarding defensive zone turnovers...and again last night. Bart's may have ultimately ended up in the net but it is a team problem to solve right now.

With last years goaltending the Flames get lit up in the last few.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Chicago Chicago Chicago, Bring on Chicago.

There is virtually no way that Nashville loses more than 1 game of their last 3. With the last three we have, it's virtually guaranteed that we draw the Hawks in round 1.

If that's how you feel about the flames then we'll also be out in four games regardless of who we play in the playoffs. Who exactly do you think we're playing on this road trip? The '77 Habs? It's a beat up struggling Sharks team, a crappy LA team and the ducks.

If that's a near impossible task to go 1-1-1, all we'd need if Preds went 2-1-0, then our season is basically over already.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Man you kind of opened yourself up to this but Bartkowski played only 13 minutes and turned over the puck twice resulting in goals against. Regardless of him skating well it can't be ignored that his two turnovers were the difference in the game. I mean if that's what you consider "a hell of a game" I would hate to see what you consider a poor game. You think the Flames deserved better after turning the puck over all night an leaving Elliott out to dry and make some ridiculous saves? They were terrible for a large part of the game and were full marks for the loss as the Ducks outshot and out-chanced them. This is why you never open up a post calling people stupid.

I suppose you can blame Bartkowski for that last goal. ...I wouldn't.

Sure he fanned on the shot but he also came back and did his job defensively. There were 4 other guys out there that had 150' of ice to help out and 3 of them chose not to.

If I'm assigning blame to one guy on a team wide breakdown. ..it's on Johnny. Still unsure what the hell he was thinking on that play. Terrible awareness on his part.

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

Why? Because we're deliberately lulling the Ducks into a false sense of superiority by losing to them?

Well they barely beat us by a goal on some terrible defense by Johnny and a gaffe from Bartkowski. Clean those things up and that game is most likely ours. In no way did they dominate play last night, they are beatable.

[EVERLAST]

Yeah , Bart screwed up. Every single player on this team at some point has screwed up at some point ....including Johnny ....some games he more anyone and when you are 180 feet from your goal its not ok.

Waaaayyyyy more accountability needs to happen by everyone going forward when we make mistakes.

Forwards have to get back and help the defence , it is not just suddenly the defenses problem and then Elliotts job to save the day after turnovers.....that's not how you win cups.

Certain players need to learn how to play all 3 zones allot better then we are ....we've just made the playoffs and won't last 4 games if they don't start.....so don't be blaming Bart for everything . .....lots of giveaways from Johnny this year too.

Wow...my fingers are tired.

[calgaryred]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

Well they barely beat us by a goal on some terrible defense by Johnny and a gaffe from Bartkowski. Clean those things up and that game is most likely ours. In no way did they dominate play last night, they are beatable.

They also played last night and then had to again against a rested Flames. Flames defense was by far not playoff ready. Will say 3rd Period was Calgary's best regardless what happened at the end.

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[polak]

Lets go 0-3 and get the Hawks please.

I think we'll be lucky to match the '15 playoff series with the Ducks if we get them round 1.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Is it just me or is the poutyness in the PGT surprising and over the top. A lot of this team doesn't look ready, oh my god, going to fall back and play the Hawks..........blah blah.

Do people just have this need to be negative all the time. Is it a defense mechanism, if you don't get your hopes up, you'll never be disapointed? Or is it that expectations are so high that you are always disapointed?

Wasn't a great game last night, sure. Flames have only been .500 since the win streak ended, but in fairness they've also had a very tough schedule. They've been one of the better teams in the league for a significant amount of time right now. Honest truth is, their slow start this year put them so far behind the 8 ball that realistically competing for the division down the stretch likely wasn't going to happen, the remaining games were too tough. Price we are paying for the slow start.

But god, some of the comments around here would make you think it's 09 again where a team that just went out and became the biggest buyers at the deadline started to implode down the stretch and lost what should have been a strangle hold on the division lead to finish 6th in the conference and have to play the Hawks first round, vs. having one of the youngest and best teams in the league for the entire back half of the season.

Is it just the Oilers factor? For a second there it looked like maybe we could pass them, we aren't going to, so back to full on pout mode?

The negativity from some.......this team isn't ready, we are going to fall to 8th for sure.........good grief.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I suppose you can blame Bartkowski for that last goal. ...I wouldn't.

Sure he fanned on the shot but he also came back and did his job defensively. There were 4 other guys out there that had 150' of ice to help out and 3 of them chose not to.

If I'm assigning blame to one guy on a team wide breakdown. ..it's on Johnny. Still unsure what the hell he was thinking on that play. Terrible awareness on his part.

I'm not solely blaming Bartkowski for the loss but he was part of the problem. To call out people for being "stupid" and then following that with "Bartkowski had a hell of a game" is just silly given the team played poorly as a whole and hung Elliott out to dry most of the night. This team isn't playing well right now but that bottom pairing was pretty bad as Engelland also coughed up the puck a few times and was bailed out by Elliot. 3rd pairing has to be a lot better than they were last night if they are going to win a game or more against the Hawks in the first round.

[flamesfever]

I'm still disappointed. Why they didn't play for the tie, and then do their thing in overtime, is beyond me.

Hopefully, there's some sort of a lesson learned in that game.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

The negativity from some.......this team isn't ready, we are going to fall to 8th for sure.........good grief.

Just curious but what's your opinion? Things are going great? Team is peaking at the right time? The fact is the team went 1-2 against the three California teams in succession last week playing the 2nd half of back to backs against the Oilers who went 3-0 against those teams in the front half. If the Flames don't go 2-1 in California against those same teams they will head into the playoffs playing below .500 hockey since the winning streak snapped. It may sound negative to some but it's also the reality.