It is totally weird that I am being outed as a Trump supporter.
As I said long ago I had you as a Cruz guy. I think you'd take whoever would be the most religious guy. I tend to think you know Trump is a charlatan, but still hate Hillary and the Democrats quite a bit, so it produces a conundrum for you.
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As I said long ago I had you as a Cruz guy. I think you'd take whoever would be the most religious guy. I tend to think you know Trump is a charlatan, but still hate Hillary and the Democrats quite a bit, so it produces a conundrum for you.
Cruz is the worst of that whole lot, because at least you can laugh at the hilarity of Trump to a certain extent.
As for Hillary, if it's Kasich running right now (who also has some pretty horrible past policies too, because Republican) how badly is Hillary losing right now? 5 points?
If I make a post saying, yeah, Clinton is pretty ####ty for numerous reasons, can we get back to marveling at how ludicrous a Trump candidacy and his supporters is/are?
Clinton? Man she's bad. I bet she totally killed all those people. You know what? She probably wouldn't make a great president. You know who would be worse? Trump.
I was lumped in for stating I understood why he got early support. Any defense of any aspect is taken as support.
Yup, I recall that. You can openly (arguably correctly) call him the worst candidate in history, but any comment that could even be interpreted as anything other than open, righteous condemnation results in insane, hyperbolic backlash. It's frankly amazing how poorly many peoples' minds actually work, and the frustratingly limited nuance they're capable of handling.
It's a symptom of almost never interacting with anyone who disagrees with you in any way, much less completely disagrees with you. Which is the case for a large and ever-increasing number of people.
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Bill Clinton is not running for president. There is no proof that Bill Clinton sexually assaulted anyone, or that Hillary covered it up.
There is pretty strong evidence that Bill Clinton harassed Paula Jones. Or at least a similar amount of evidence to the claims that Trump has assaulted women.
However there is no evidence that Hillary was involved in covering it up. The statements made by the accusers are vague around Hillary and consist of statements like Hillary coming up to them and saying Thank you for your help". Which was interpreted as a threat.
Cruz is the worst of that whole lot, because at least you can laugh at the hilarity of Trump to a certain extent.
As for Hillary, if it's Kasich running right now (who also has some pretty horrible past policies too, because Republican) how badly is Hillary losing right now? 5 points?
But look at Pence. People think he's "reasonable", but he has almost all the same positions as Ted Cruz, he just doesn't give off the massive creep vibe that Cruz does. Perception is weird like that.
And yeah it'd probably be a 3-4 point lead for Kasich. We'd be talking more about women's issues though (and not Trump as a pervert issues, but abortion and such), so it would be curious to see if that ultimately doomed him too. He too is seen as "reasonable", but his positions are pretty close to GOP norms.
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But look at Pence. People think he's "reasonable", but he has almost all the same positions as Ted Cruz, he just doesn't give off the massive creep vibe that Cruz does. Perception is weird like that.
And yeah it'd probably be a 3-4 point lead for Kasich. We'd be talking more about women's issues though (and not Trump as a pervert issues, but abortion and such), so it would be curious to see if that ultimately doomed him too. He too is seen as "reasonable", but his positions are pretty close to GOP norms.
But those woman's issues have been around for the last 30 years and elections are still close as hell with the office being passed back and forth between red and blue. It wouldn't have doomed him.
Romney basically maxed out the core GOP demographic and still lost. After that there was the whole autopsy report thing, but nothing changed, and then Trump hijacked everything.
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But those woman's issues have been around for the last 30 years and elections are still close as hell with the office being passed back and forth between red and blue. It wouldn't have doomed him.
Oh it wouldn't "doom him", but he's seen as a decent choice primarily because people perceive him as the sane one in the GOP race. Once his positions actually got examined in depth (like women's issues), he wouldn't be anywhere near as well thought of as he is now. The advantages of staying under the radar. It would be a lot like 2012, debate performances and a few scandals or quasi-scandals would decide it.
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Romney basically maxed out the core GOP demographic and still lost. After that there was the whole autopsy report thing, but nothing changed, and then Trump hijacked everything.
I don't think we should under estimate how much the Mormon thing worked against him with the GOP base. He also got dummied by Obama, giving us fantastically hilarious moments like this.
Kasich would be saddled with the same GOP history and policy playbook Romney and McCain were saddled with.
It would be a much closer election but GOP federal policies are losers with the electorate now.
Hillary's unfavourables would have crushed her. Lack of turnout from the Obama Collition combined with good republican turnout for the hatred of Hillary, plus being from Ohio, plus two terms dem rule, would likely give Kaisch an edge
I think Hillary Cruz would have been interesting but Bush/Kasich/Rubio all win by a few points
There is pretty strong evidence that Bill Clinton harassed Paula Jones. Or at least a similar amount of evidence to the claims that Trump has assaulted women.
However there is no evidence that Hillary was involved in covering it up. The statements made by the accusers are vague around Hillary and consist of statements like Hillary coming up to them and saying Thank you for your help". Which was interpreted as a threat.
Yeah, I've said before (I think on here, but maybe elsewhere) that it's important to neither dismiss Bill Clinton's accusers or to draw equivalencies between them and Trump's. Each sexual assault allegation is important enough that it needs to be dealt with on their own, rather than a 'this doesn't matter because the other side has similar skeletons' approach. Even if the charges against Bill and Donald were similar (they aren't), it's a disservice to the victims to use them in this sort of dismissive way. The observation that Trump is effectively using them like a human shield (I think that was Bee's observation?) rings true to me.
An articulate argument for how this negatively reflects on Hillary's character or on her ability to govern is needed for this to be part of the election debate. And so far, I haven't heard such an argument; instead, there's only a vague 'Bill has a dark past and that involves Hillary too.'
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Summer Zervos coming forward with a statement about Trump's sexual misconduct with lawyer Gloria Allred.
Meanwhile Trump has a rally where he says "She would not be my first choice" about one of his accusers, and mimics what the women are accusing him of with his hands. Nice.
EDIT: Ben Carson apparently unclear of the concept: "Sometimes you put your Christian values on pause to get the work done"
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Besides the utterly revolting "She would not be my first choice", Trump also got his cultists to shout "Lock Her (the woman accusing him) Up". There's no more middle ground about this, Trump is harvesting a cult. This is no longer about policy or anything else but stroking the orange goblin's ego.
Here's the clip of "She would not be my first choice"
Man, that press conference (with the Apprentice victim).
After the victim read her statement (which was harrowing enough), Gloria took questions rather than having the victim answer. But when someone asked why she chose to come forward, the victim spoke up and said she wanted to answer that: "Because I want to be able to sleep at night when I'm 70." Man, just a heart-breaking moment.
The details themselves were, well, detailed, but didn't really go much further than other accounts, but the key element was how he was using his position of power with the Apprentice to get this woman alone for the clear purpose of seducing her.
What's worse is you consider how many other women were in this sort of situation and did not feel they could resist his advances, and are now in a situation where they do not feel they can go public because it will reflect poorly on them compared to these women who did resist. That will be when the dam truly breaks... when the times that it did not simply end at forced kissing or groping come out.
Maybe a good outcome of this election is it will push Fox to become a reasonable Center right news network as Trump News/Breitbart outflank them on the crazy side
