The 2016 US American Election Thread

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Originally Posted by octothorp

Another woman comes forward with an allegation about being groped by Trump in the early 90s.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...fae_story.html

Trump's flying monkey Hope Hicks says these women are looking for free publicity, sure doesn't sound like it.

Anderson, who said she doesn’t support Trump or Democrat Hillary Clinton, did not initially approach The Post. A reporter contacted her after hearing her story from a person who knew of it, and she spent several days trying to decide whether to go public.

Anderson’s decision to do so follows last week’s disclosure by The Washington Post of a 2005 video in which Trump boasted to “Access Hollywood” host Billy Bush that his celebrity gave him the ability to grab women “by the p---y. You can do anything.”

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Yo
His tiny palms are sweaty, knees creak, arms flabby n heavy
There's a grin on his face already, Trump's spaghetti
He's clueless, but on the surface he looks smug and ready

Ohhh this is a delicious lick lol

[peter12]

People have spent this entire election decrying any mention of Bill's antics with women, and any association that Hillary may have had in covering up said antics. Shame on anyone who believes this was politically motivated.

So a bunch of women come out of the woodwork to confirm what everyone already knew - that Donald Trump is a greasy, sleazy dumpster monster - and no one can admit that we have two deeply flawed candidates.

This election is about so much more than Clinton beating Donald, and it really blows my mind that people in here can't get past the obvious to focus on the substantial.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by peter12

People have spent this entire election decrying any mention of Bill's antics with women, and any association that Hillary may have had in covering up said antics. Shame on anyone who believes this was politically motivated.

So a bunch of women come out of the woodwork to confirm what everyone already knew - that Donald Trump is a greasy, sleazy dumpster monster - and no one can admit that we have two deeply flawed candidates.

This election is about so much more than Clinton beating Donald, and it really blows my mind that people in here can't get past the obvious to focus on the substantial.

Like you were doing by pointing to Niki Minaj and hypocrisy. We're all so blind. Fools I say, FOOLS!

I've missed you. This reminds me, is it really possible for a Trump supporter to say why he's good without attacking Hillary? The only answer they seem to have is "Nuh uh, he's bad but she's bad too so let's focus on "the issues""

Also the Trumpian way you phrased that first little section was impressive. You not only created an argument that didn't exist but you then tried to argue against an argument that didn't exist. I wish there was a word for that but alas I cannot think of what it is.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by peter12

People have spent this entire election decrying any mention of Bill's antics with women, and any association that Hillary may have had in covering up said antics. Shame on anyone who believes this was politically motivated.

So a bunch of women come out of the woodwork to confirm what everyone already knew - that Donald Trump is a greasy, sleazy dumpster monster - and no one can admit that we have two deeply flawed candidates.

This election is about so much more than Clinton beating Donald, and it really blows my mind that people in here can't get past the obvious to focus on the substantial.

Bill Clinton is not running for president. There is no proof that Bill Clinton sexually assaulted anyone, or that Hillary covered it up.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Like you were doing by pointing to Niki Minaj and hypocrisy. We're all so blind. Fools I say, FOOLS!

I've missed you. This reminds me, is it really possible for a Trump supporter to say why he's good without attacking Hillary? The only answer they seem to have is "Nuh uh, he's bad but she's bad too so let's focus on "the issues""

Also the Trumpian way you phrased that first little section was impressive. You not only created an argument that didn't exist but you then tried to argue against an argument that didn't exist. I wish there was a word for that but alas I cannot think of what it is.

No, I don't really care what Nicki Minaj says in her songs. This has nothing to do with black musicians or black music.

Trump is wretched. An awful creature that deserves the Presidency less than the pair of underwear I threw in the wash after sweating in them for 2 hours at the gym.

My point was, that the Left embraces cultural crudity to the same extent, but santimonizes it by calling it art or expression or whatever.

It is moral Puritanism with the most cynical of motives. If the new progressives were interested in opposing violent statements against women in all forms, I would be all for it, but to actually act like they have any skin in this game beyond winning an election in 4 weeks is so naive.

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Originally Posted by ResAlien

I've missed you. This reminds me, is it really possible for a Trump supporter to say why he's good without attacking Hillary?

He's the only person on the planet that can save us from the substantial threat of the global cabal of bankers, Jews, blacks, and globalists that are going to take over the USA (before or after it's overrun by ISIS I'm not sure which).

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by peter12

People have spent this entire election decrying any mention of Bill's antics with women, and any association that Hillary may have had in covering up said antics. Shame on anyone who believes this was politically motivated.

So a bunch of women come out of the woodwork to confirm what everyone already knew - that Donald Trump is a greasy, sleazy dumpster monster - and no one can admit that we have two deeply flawed candidates.

This election is about so much more than Clinton beating Donald, and it really blows my mind that people in here can't get past the obvious to focus on the substantial.

Ah, moving the goalposts.

A surrogate points out that the Obamas once met a rapper who's written offensive lyrics. You say that they're right to point out the hypocrisy. When called on the false equivalency, you try to shift the discussion to Bill Clinton's allegations vs. Trump's allegations.

Take a step back and defend your perspective that the Obamas are somehow hypocritical to criticize Trump's claims to sexual assault, and yet meet with Minaj. Do so without deflecting to Bill Clinton this time.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Drak

Bill Clinton is not running for president. There is no proof that Bill Clinton sexually assaulted anyone, or that Hillary covered it up.

The Broderick case is quite compelling. Once again, I would strongly recommend reading Christopher Hitchens "No One Left to Lie to."

Once again, we can't say "I believe all women" only when it is politically convenient, which is exactly what the Democrats are doing now.

This is not about Donald Trump. The United States will survive this election, and that is exactly what people should be thinking about now.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by octothorp

Ah, moving the goalposts.

A surrogate points out that the Obamas once met a rapper who's written offensive lyrics. You say that they're right to point out the hypocrisy. When called on the false equivalency, you try to shift the discussion to Bill Clinton's allegations vs. Trump's allegations.

Take a step back and defend your perspective that the Obamas are somehow hypocritical to criticize Trump's claims to sexual assault, and yet meet with Minaj. Do so without deflecting to Bill Clinton this time.

You don't understand. I am not even criticizing the Obamas. I like Barack Obama.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by peter12

No, I don't really care what Nicki Minaj says in her songs. This has nothing to do with black musicians or black music.

Trump is wretched. An awful creature that deserves the Presidency less than the pair of underwear I threw in the wash after sweating in them for 2 hours at the gym.

My point was, that the Left embraces cultural crudity to the same extent, but santimonizes it by calling it art or expression or whatever.

It is moral Puritanism with the most cynical of motives. If the new progressives were interested in opposing violent statements against women in all forms, I would be all for it, but to actually act like they have any skin in this game beyond winning an election in 4 weeks is so naive.

Uh huh. And what does this "moral crudity" have to do with a presidential candidate advocating sexual assault. These are not the same, it seems you just want to whine about the left and the moral decay of North America again. Nice smokescreen though, you'll get a few people with it. I bit.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by octothorp

Ah, moving the goalposts.

A surrogate points out that the Obamas once met a rapper who's written offensive lyrics. You say that they're right to point out the hypocrisy. When called on the false equivalency, you try to shift the discussion to Bill Clinton's allegations vs. Trump's allegations.

Take a step back and defend your perspective that the Obamas are somehow hypocritical to criticize Trump's claims to sexual assault, and yet meet with Minaj. Do so without deflecting to Bill Clinton this time.

You don't understand. I am not even criticizing the Obamas. I like Barack Obama.

Let's just say there is some pretty intense cognitive dissonance going on here, and leave it at that.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by peter12

My point was, that the Left embraces cultural crudity to the same extent, but santimonizes it by calling it art or expression or whatever.

Care to expand on that thought with examples.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Uh huh. And what does this "moral crudity" have to do with a presidential candidate advocating sexual assault. These are not the same, it seems you just want to whine about the left and the moral decay of North America again. Nice smokescreen though, you'll get a few people with it. I bit.

Man, you are so empowered. It must feel so good.

I am whining about the left?

[Senator Clay Davis]

peter stepping up the trolling game after months of being in the dumps and letting Buster supplant him. I always like a good comeback story.

[photon]

Originally Posted by peter12

Once again, we can't say "I believe all women" only when it is politically convenient, which is exactly what the Democrats are doing now.

Says who?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by photon

Says who?

I don't know who this is.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by peter12

I don't know who this is.

It's Polls. Some of them. All of them?

[peter12]

It is totally weird that I am being outed as a Trump supporter.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by peter12

It is totally weird that I am being outed as a Trump supporter.

I was lumped in for stating I understood why he got early support. Any defense of any aspect is taken as support. This thread got pretty partisan. Just because one candidate is clearly worse, doesn't mean that the other can't be poor too.