[PGT] Oilers 7, Flames 4 -- Nadir

[Machiavelli]

Gio/Brodie is a joy to watch.

Don't rob me of that ever again

[Wolfman]

After the first two shots I had the same feeling inside when Hiller was in net last year, the flashbacks were horrible.

[hockey.modern]

Assuming Chad Johnson starts on Friday, and back to Eliot on Saturday?

[combustiblefuel]

I have been really in on the Gulutzan hate train tonight for sure but how about some hate for Dave Cameron????

He IS IN CHARGE of the defense . What the #### is he thinking???

[Wiggum_PI]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

True. But if he takes a shot and there's a big rebound or shoots wide the same thing happens. A forward needs to cover.

I think the reality is that Grossman is just to slow to really be doing anything in the offensive zone. If Brodie, Giordano, or Hamilton carry the puck in, they are all fast enough to get back defensively if they turn the puck over. Guys like Grossman, Wideman, and Engelland not so much. It was a dumb play by Grossman, just like his terrible pass up the middle for the Oilers 1st goal.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

After the first two shots I had the same feeling inside when Hiller was in net last year, the flashbacks were horrible.

Elliott certainly didn't help himself other than that great glove save and 2-on-1 save off Lucic... but it seemed like the team really hung him out to dry early.

[Racki]

Originally Posted by AC

Honestly that looks fantastic... and painfully obvious.

My concern is that it is obvious to everyone except the guy that makes that decision. If Gulutzan is bullish on his new pairings it could be a long season.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Assuming Chad Johnson starts on Friday, and back to Eliot on Saturday?

i think it's the other way around. Elliott should get the home opener

[hockey.modern]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I have been really in on the Gulutzan hate train tonight for sure but how about some hate for Dave Cameron????

He IS IN CHARGE of the defense . What the #### is he thinking???

No, Paul Jerrard is in charge of the defense and PK. Cameron is PP and working with the forwards

[Toonage]

They need to put Elliott back out there right away. No game off.

[activeStick]

Well that looked like Ramo / Hiller GAA and save percentage...

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Racki

My concern is that it is obvious to everyone except the guy that makes that decision. If Gulutzan is bullish on his new pairings it could be a long season.

If Gulutzan changes them after clearly seeing how it worked, then I'll be fine. But seeing what happened and not fixing will not fly

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

I can see the theory behind Gulutzan's D-pairings, and it makes me really nervous that he's the kind of coach that thought it would work.

We have 3 great D-men on this team. Pairing each of them with a plug does not spread the greatness... it spreads the suck. Suck is dominant gene.

I recall when B.Sutter used to experiment with D pairings, trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. I hope Gulutzan's doesn't prove to be as stubborn as we lost lots a lot of points in the beginning of the season during those little experiments.

[Erick Estrada]

It has to be noted Kris Russell was really good tonight. I'm glad he's not a Flame but good for him for coming into camp very late and being one of the few if only defenseman on the ice that looked NHL caliber.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

No, Paul Jerrard is in charge of the defense and PK. Cameron is PP and working with the forwards

Are you sure of this?? Ussually the Assistant coach is in charge of of the defense pairing throughout the game.

[flames_fan13]

Originally Posted by AC

As someone else mentioned the key to Gulutzan's style of coaching will be next game's pairings.

If he's stubborn and uses the same pairs I might be sick to my stomach.

If he makes logical adjustments, then there's hope.

It has to change doesn't it? I mean you would think they'd change Jokipakka for Grossman at the least.

[hockey.modern]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Are you sure of this?? Ussually the Assistant coach is in charge of of the defense.

Paul Jerrard is an assistant coach too...

[Henry Fool]

Originally Posted by hurtin_albertan

He can when he slams it directly into the body of a sliding defender. Make a better play with the puck or stay your useless ass back on the blue line.

Yeah it's still a bad play to give away the puck even if someone is supposed to cover for you. At least get it behind the defense.

[hockey.modern]

@WesGilbertson:

#Flames G Brian Elliott: “It’s one of those things — what could go wrong did go wrong. That's not the way you want to start the season.”

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

i think it's the other way around. Elliott should get the home opener

I would give Elliot 7 straight starts. Get at it.