10-10-2016, 03:48 PM
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#1901
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Originally Posted by UnitedFlames
wow - people really don't think the team can win without Gaudreau? You think the players have no pride, that they're going to sit in the dressing room crying because they don't have Johnny? The Flames are a young, up & coming team, with or without Gaudreau. Give the players some credit. If anything, this will probably fuel them.
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Obviously the team will do better with him in the lineup but I agree, the wheels aren't gonna fall off if he misses 10 games. I have to say that this whole ordeal is beginning to negatively effect my perceptions of Johnny.
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10-10-2016, 03:49 PM
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#1902
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UnitedFlames
wow - people really don't think the team can win without Gaudreau? You think the players have no pride, that they're going to sit in the dressing room crying because they don't have Johnny? The Flames are a young, up & coming team, with or without Gaudreau. Give the players some credit. If anything, this will probably fuel them.
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Literally nobody is saying that.
But we're a bubble playoff team with Johnny. Without him, I don't much like our chances. He drives the entire offense.
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10-10-2016, 03:49 PM
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#1903
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Isn't there a December 1st deadline or thereabouts for RFA players to sign or miss the season? That's about the time the lost money starts to add up to the point of never get it back.
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10-10-2016, 03:49 PM
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#1904
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UnitedFlames
wow - people really don't think the team can win without Gaudreau? You think the players have no pride, that they're going to sit in the dressing room crying because they don't have Johnny? The Flames are a young, up & coming team, with or without Gaudreau. Give the players some credit. If anything, this will probably fuel them.
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I agree with some of this, by quite frankly no, I don't think they can be a winning team without him. There's some great pieces without him for sure, but let's be honest, even with him in the lineup that depth on the wing is pitiful. Can they go 3-0 without him? Sure, but I don't think it's too likely.
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10-10-2016, 03:50 PM
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#1905
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
Literally nobody is saying that.
But we're a bubble playoff team with Johnny. Without him, I don't much like our chances. He drives the entire offense.
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He should probably start driving his contract negotiations.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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10-10-2016, 03:50 PM
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#1906
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
Literally nobody is saying that.
But we're a bubble playoff team with Johnny. Without him, I don't much like our chances. He drives the entire offense.
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10-10-2016, 03:53 PM
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#1907
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Threadkiller
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: 51.0544° N, 114.0669° W
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10-10-2016, 03:54 PM
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#1908
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Deep South
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Originally Posted by iggy_oi
The outcome of this contract could really play a big part in the next CBA negotiations as well. If one of the best players in the league is getting being put in a position where he has almost no choice but to accept the team's offer or sit out, even if the offer is way below what comparable players are making, no matter what the reason, the NHLPA will rally around something like this big time.
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I'm pretty confident that the Flames have likely put a fair deal in front of Johnny. He wants to maximize that deal which is his right. So, if he holds out that would be his choice but I will not belive for a second that the Flames haven't put a fair and reasonable offer before him. Treliving didn't travel and meet with Mom and Dad and all to slap them in the face.
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10-10-2016, 03:54 PM
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#1909
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Stockholm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
Literally nobody is saying that.
But we're a bubble playoff team with Johnny. Without him, I don't much like our chances. He drives the entire offense.
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Our chances...
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10-10-2016, 03:56 PM
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#1910
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by ricosuave
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That's painfully unfunny and unoriginal.
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10-10-2016, 03:57 PM
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#1911
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Voted for Kodos
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
I agree with some of this, by quite frankly no, I don't think they can be a winning team without him. There's some great pieces without him for sure, but let's be honest, even with him in the lineup that depth on the wing is pitiful. Can they go 3-0 without him? Sure, but I don't think it's too likely.
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We definitely want JG in the lineup, but we should be able to beat the likes of Edmonton, Vancouver, Buffalo, and Carolina without him.
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10-10-2016, 03:57 PM
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#1912
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UnitedFlames
wow - people really don't think the team can win without Gaudreau? You think the players have no pride, that they're going to sit in the dressing room crying because they don't have Johnny? The Flames are a young, up & coming team, with or without Gaudreau. Give the players some credit. If anything, this will probably fuel them.
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I agree and this is exactly what happened 2 years ago when the captain and one of the front runner Norris candidates went down... Others elevated their game to compensate... I prefer to be positive about the whole thing and strongly think that IF Johnny is not in the line up the 1st few games, the Bennett line will come out of the gate flying.. (No , I have no sources..just my gut feeling as these guys are pros after all)
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10-10-2016, 04:00 PM
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#1913
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Threadkiller
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: 51.0544° N, 114.0669° W
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
That's painfully unfunny and unoriginal.
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Well, it was more to break up the bull#### going on here
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10-10-2016, 04:01 PM
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#1914
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
Literally nobody is saying that.
But we're a bubble playoff team with Johnny. Without him, I don't much like our chances. He drives the entire offense.
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The Flames offence is largely driven by great puck carrying / distributing defensemen. Gaudreau is also a big part of it, but to say that he is singular in the scoring success of the Flames is pure hyperbole.
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10-10-2016, 04:01 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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By no means are we dead in the water if this drags into the season, but no need to sugar coat it. It's not good.
No Johnny is a huge blow, as Monahan will be rusty coming off injury and playing with inferior and new line-mates.
With the start we had last year and the way it had us chasing all season, getting out of the gate strong is important this year. I'm sure others will step up their game, but missing Gaudreau is going to be a huge detriment for the first few games if he is indeed out.
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10-10-2016, 04:02 PM
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#1916
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by nik-
Are we ignoring the salary he'd lose and never be able to recoup?
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That IS exactly the salary he would lose, at a yearly AAV of $7.5m. What are you asking?
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10-10-2016, 04:03 PM
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#1917
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_wmh
That IS exactly the salary he would lose, at a yearly AAV of $7.5m. What are you asking?
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It's actually more like 1.75 million
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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10-10-2016, 04:03 PM
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#1918
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Franchise Player
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Everyone looks bad if this is not settled by Wednesday.
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10-10-2016, 04:06 PM
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#1919
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_wmh
That IS exactly the salary he would lose, at a yearly AAV of $7.5m. What are you asking?
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The Gaudreau camp, at 7.5M per, would lose $41,666.67 per day once the regular season starts (based on a 180 day season).
Last edited by ComixZone; 10-10-2016 at 04:09 PM.
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10-10-2016, 04:07 PM
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#1920
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Gaudreau, at 7.5M, would lose $41,666.66 per day once the regular season starts (based on a 180 day season).
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And his agent would lose 10-15 % of that right?
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