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			Well that would be significant. Do you have an actual link to the study?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-18-2016, 12:48 PM
			
			
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				OK so if you believe so strongly that it's imperative for you and your kids to ingest fluoride that's great, feel absolutely 100% free to fluoridate your own water. It's your right, nobody is stopping you.  
 
Don't ask me to pay for it, I've never had a cavity and take care of my teeth. Don't care if you don't. This isn't the vaxxer argument, you can't hate shame anyone here. 
			
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You've made your thoughts known in the vaccination thread, the GMO thread and now this one...
 
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			02-18-2016, 12:52 PM
			
			
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			Here is the link. Too busy to look for it before. The numbers I used were from the Herald article but a quick look through the actual  paper does not show those numbers. Guess you can't trust the Herald.  It does show a statistically significant increase in decay in Calgary though.  
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...doe.12215/epdf
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-18-2016, 01:00 PM
			
			
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			I need to find a way to get more fluoride on my pearly whites. I never had a cavity until after they took out the fluoride and now I feel like I have a couple even though I brush and take care of them exactly the same.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-18-2016, 01:05 PM
			
			
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			The Herald's numbers come from this link 
https://www.ucalgary.ca/utoday/issue...uoride-removal
The study only comes to conclusions relating to primary teeth. They did observe a trend of increasing decay in permanent teeth but it was not significant at this point.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			02-18-2016, 04:44 PM
			
			
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			What exactly is the issue with having fluoride in the water that some people dont like (other than the choice issue) Are there any real health issues with it?  
A quick google linked to some...uh...less than scientific literature.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-18-2016, 05:50 PM
			
			
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				What exactly is the issue with having fluoride in the water that some people dont like (other than the choice issue) Are there any real health issues with it?  
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No, it's all quackery. There's no real good way to self-administer fluoride in safe amounts, since the amount added to a municipal water supply is mandated by Health Canada at .7 PPM, or .0007ml per litre, an amount so minuscule (but effective at maintaining healthy teeth) that you would only retain 19mg total of it over a 75 year lifespan assuming you drank 2 liters a day (since half is lost in urine).
 
Yeah, if you ingested 30x that amount you might get skeletal fluorosis, but you would need to be one of those "My Strange Addiction" people who eat toothpaste on the regular to get to that point, or live in a ####hole country that doesn't administer fluoride correctly to it's potable water supply.
 
The anti-fluoridation rhetoric is fuelled by equal parts Dr. Oz-bingeing mommy bloggers, tin-foil hat-wearing conspiracy wingnuts, and libertarians, with a side of a "#### the poor" attitude. Essentially, it's all bull####.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			More fluoride.....????? In the water.....I have a solution 
I want me some grape drink baby
 
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			Oh good.  Here we go again.  How much money are we going to waste on this round?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-08-2016, 11:19 AM
			
			
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			They could allocate a few dollars out of the civil art fund for it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Oh good.  Here we go again.  How much money are we going to waste on this round? 
			
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			09-08-2016, 11:28 AM
			
			
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But does it not affect the Pineal Gland.  You know the one that unlocks your 6th sense and could one day make you telepathic ?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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#### these clowns. Fluoride and secondary suites. The majority of people dont ####ing want either of them yet these clowns keep rehasing this same ####.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				But does it not affect the Pineal Gland.  You know the one that unlocks your 6th sense and could one day make you telepathic ? 
			
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I'm not arguing that, it's the whole debacle was a waste of time and money.  Now we are going to do it all over again.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-08-2016, 11:41 AM
			
			
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			I don't know about the whole telepathy thing with the pineal gland but I can vouch for some very VERY strange trippy (spiritual?) experiences from meditation and stuff like that, and it has me a believer.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				#### these clowns. Fluoride and secondary suites. The majority of people dont ####ing want either of them yet these clowns keep rehasing this same ####. 
			
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I believe Fluoride was taken out because of a very loud minority, was it not?
 
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