The New American Politics thread

[peter12]

Originally Posted by old-fart

Wrong thread and all but, what? No, not even a little, no chance.

Mormonism was started by a confirmed con artist and believes, among other things, that said confirmed con artist could magically read engravings he found buried in the ground if he held a magic stone, that the Garden of Eden is somewhere in Missouri, that Jesus already came back and spent some time in America talking with the natives, and that if you are especially pious and live by all their wacky rules you can one day rule your own planet like Kolob.

Mormonism has far more in common with Scientology (to wit: they are both scams started by con artists) than it does with any of the fairy tale based religions.

Good reading here, if you are interested.

http://www.firstthings.com/article/2...hing-orthodoxy

[peter12]

Originally Posted by octothorp

Oh yeah, that I can totally agree with. I just have read speculation about how the meeting with Lynch influenced Comey's decision, which I assumed is what you were getting at. But yeah, the Lynch meeting itself, totally inappropriate regardless of whatever was discussed.

The problem is that the speculation actually has some merit due to Bill`s total indiscretion.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Hockey Fan #751

A big question I have is, who was she emailing? Were they also using private email servers? Because if not, then you can't really avoid FOIA can you?

A lot of the emails were to Sid Blumenthal, who is a close adviser to Clinton (not a member of the administration) - he was not using a .gov email.

I think someone posted a link to the searchable archive of emails earlier in the thread.

[MissTeeks]

He blew a microchip again today. From Daniel Dale today:

Now Donald Trump is defending his Star of David tweet. "It's a star! A star! Like, a star."

Oh wow. Donald Trump says the media is "racially profiling" by calling the star a Star of David.

Donald Trump: "My daughter is Jewish. I have grandchildren that are Jewish. And I love them."

This is absolutely amazing. Donald Trump says people who thought the star was a Star of David are the actual anti-Semites.

The Star of David controversy had been obliterated by the email scandal. Now Trump is saying "star" over and over. Maybe 25 times so far.

Trump did what Republicans wanted from him to start - bashed Clinton on emails. Then he threw his notes up in the air and reverted to Trump.

Trump boasts that he predicted Brexit. He literally didn't know what the term "Brexit" meant, and said he hadn't been paying attention.

[RougeUnderoos]

That was certainly a strange outburst about mosquitos.

This guy is unhinged. He's just rambling again. He seems to be personally bragging about Bobby Knight's basketball record, as though it somehow reflects well on himself.

[activeStick]

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[Senator Clay Davis]

I wonder if that's the potential way to backdoor him at the convention, declare him mentally unfit to be nominee. Certainly a plethora of evidence available to show that he is quite mentally unfit. The level of insanity is quite breathtaking though, how his kids don't seem to want to intervene and help their dad is also kinda fascinating. Maybe they want him to crash and burn.

[ernie]

Ivanka did intervene and had his campaign manager removed but it sounds like that was more because he didn't get along with her husband. But yes they have been quite silent. But we'll get to hear them all speak at the convention because no one else wants to speak.

And now you have the inevitable being floated....Ivanka as his VP candidate. This from Bob Corker who decided he didn't want to be. Now her brother Eric is jumping on the "she'd be great" bandwagon. Maybe we aren't that far from a Kanye-Kim whitehouse....


They also need to lay off the "it's just a star" thing. No it was a six-pointed star overlayed on piles of cash from a white power message board/site. And it's been a half dozen or more times now that his account has tweeted something from known white supremacist sources. And of course his reluctance to disavow himself from white supremacist leaders that endorsed him. No Trump camp in this case "it's not just a star".

[GirlySports]

yeah Trump could have just apologized. Sorry it was an oversight, we didn't make the connection. Which was probably true.

But of course he has to fight it.

[zamler]

A symbolic glimpse of the future.

[AltaGuy]

Originally Posted by peter12

An open and active component to the campaign, as well as someone who will have a central role in the administration.

Honestly, people. Honestly. People call Trump supporters stupid...

I know you desperately want to draw this equivalency, but... nope.

[worth]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

yeah Trump could have just apologized.

Has Trump every apologized for anything?

[MissTeeks]

Last night, he tweeted this:

Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump – Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump

Where is the outrage for this Disney book? Is this the 'Star of David' also?
Dishonest media! #Frozen



Which he had stolen from one of his supporters. Lol.

[PsYcNeT]

Well I mean, Disney was known as a pretty big racist and anti-Semite.

[troutman]

Cummings gives heated indictment of GOP

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/07/politi...ton/index.html

The ranking member of the panel, Elijah Cummings, raised his voice as he gave a scathing opening statement criticizing Republicans.

“Today, House Republicans are doing what they always do, using taxpayer money to investigate claims that have already been debunked just to keep them in the headlines one more day," Cummings said.

He also told James Comey that he had full faith in his work at the FBI.

“Amazingly, some Republicans who were praising you just days ago for your independence, your integrity and for your honesty, instantly turned against you because your determination contradicted their predetermined outcome," he said. “So now you are being summoned here to answer for your alleged transgressions."

He continued:

“Contrary to the claims of your critics, there is absolutely no evidence that you made your conclusion for political reasons … (or) based upon anything but the facts and the law.”

[troutman]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...aring-petraeus

"Amazingly, amazingly, some Republicans who were praising you just days ago for your independence, for your integrity, and your honesty, instantly turned against you, because your recommendation conflicted with the predetermined outcome they wanted," Cummings said. "In their eyes, you had one job. And one job only: to prosecute Hillary Clinton. But you refused to do so. So now you are being summoned here to answer for your alleged transgressions. And in a sense, Mr. Director, you are on trial."

The Democratic congressman went on to compare Clinton's probe to that of retired General David Petraeus who pleaded guilty to charges related to having shared classified information with his mistress and biographer, Paula Broadwell.

"I give House Republicans credit," Cummings said. "They are not shy about what they are doing. They have turned political investigations into an art form. If our concerns here today are with the proper treatment of classified information, then we should start with a review of our previous hearing on General David Petraeus, who pled guilty last year to intentionally and knowingly compromising highly classified information. The problem is, Mr. Director, we never had that hearing. This committee ignored that breach of national security because it did not match the political goals of House Republicans."

[peter12]

Well, he is a Democrat.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Last night, he tweeted this:

Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump – Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump

Where is the outrage for this Disney book? Is this the 'Star of David' also?
Dishonest media! #Frozen



Which he had stolen from one of his supporters. Lol.

And it looks to me like it's photoshopped. Looking through Amazon and Google images I couldn't find one image with a six pointed star. They literally all had the same "star" as this image

Spoiler!

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by troutman

"I give House Republicans credit," Cummings said. "They are not shy about what they are doing. They have turned political investigations into an art form. "

GOP = the party of investigating, obstructing and repealing.
they really haven't done anything else in years and now they want to have an investigation into the investigation.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by peter12

Honestly, people. Honestly. People call Trump supporters stupid...

I know I do, as do most people with any intelligence.