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Old 02-07-2016, 08:50 AM   #621
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Just for giggles, here is Larry Brooks bourbon fueled "take" on things.

I haven't read "Brooksies" stuff since Torts left the big apple, but it's good to see he still has visions of grandeur and complete license to continually embellish things and STILL is able to work in a dig at the league and Jeremy Jacobs all these years later. He just can't help himself at times.

Any team that doesn't follow concussion protocol should forfeit a 1st round pick and be fined a million dollars?

When most people in the arena that night had no idea what occurred, let's be completely petulant with their punishment!!!

Such a clown.

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Hah.

Might as well cancel the whole 1st round then and start the draft at the 2nd round.

There isn't a team in the league that hasn't tried to avoid concussion protocol by labelling things as "whiplash" or as non-descript "upper-body" injuries, especially in the playoffs.
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Old 02-07-2016, 09:19 AM   #622
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^ of course this is true.
Isn't this the problem?
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Old 02-07-2016, 09:40 AM   #623
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NEB! I completely agree with your post. And add the little stutter step Wideman takes just before contact and I think he was totally unaware of Henderson until the last moment.
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Old 02-07-2016, 09:50 AM   #624
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^ of course this is true.
Isn't this the problem?
Sure, it's generally part of a larger problem.

I just think the sudden faux outrage is funny and awfully convenient. Like OMG! The Flames may have violated concussion protocol, what should be done to them as a punishment!?
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Old 02-07-2016, 12:25 PM   #625
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Here's Simmonds throwing his stick at an official (after an admittedly terrible call) From that angle it looks like he is also hitting the linesman in the junk. OUTRAGE!

Rob Ray got 10 (later reduced to 7) for alledgedly throwing his stick at an official (http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/hockey-c...f-an-official/), though it doesn't sound very bad the way he tells it.

I go back to the notion that rugby players are capable of playing at 100% intensity and giving officials 100% respect. There is no reason this couldn't be the case in the NHL, if they came down hard on any and all instances of players disrespecting and potentially harming officials; especially in instances where it's actually players losing control (Simmonds, Lucic, Joseph) and not accidental.
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^ ok. I misread.
I understood him to say that the concussion problem still exists today because fines for violating protocol are a joke - and this was the latest example.
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:57 AM   #627
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Sounds like Widemans hearing started at 10AM eastern.
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Old 02-10-2016, 10:44 AM   #628
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Dennis Wideman appeal started today at 10am EST in NY. It is still going... #Flames

Approaching the 3 hour mark.
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Old 02-10-2016, 10:45 AM   #629
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Uninformed prediction: Bettman reduces it to 15 for optics, PA appeals further.
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Old 02-10-2016, 10:52 AM   #630
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I think he upholds. PA doesn't appeal again.
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Old 02-10-2016, 10:54 AM   #631
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I bet after Kadri's comments last night about being 'in and out of it' that the NHL is not going to look favourably on the defense of "oh I was concussed".
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Through the first four games of Dennis Wideman's suspension, Flames have won three times and gone 3-for-10 on the powerplay.
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wow! Out of thanks but that's a great tweet.
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Uninformed prediction: Bettman reduces it to 15 for optics, PA appeals further.
I would be very surprised if Bettman reduces. Possible, but I suspect Bettman just kicks the can to an arbitrator, if Wideman chooses to take it that far.
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I think he upholds. PA doesn't appeal again.
Why do you say this stupid things? just to get a rise?

NHLPA is taking this all the way if its stays at 20...why wouldnt they
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Exactly. The NHLPA fought to have an independent arbitrator placed above Bettman. They aren't going to not use that arbitrator in a case as big as this one.
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Through the first four games of Dennis Wideman's suspension, Flames have won three times and gone 3-for-10 on the powerplay.
Not that I think Wideman is a huge loss but

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Through the first four games of Dennis Wideman's suspension, Flames have won three times and gone 3-for-10 on the powerplay.
With the suspension there is absolutely no way we can trade him though.
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If Bettman upholds the 20 game suspension (and I would suspect he does) then the NHLPA will for sure appeal to the independent arbitrator. Under the new CBA, this had not been done before and I expect they are anxious to test this process.
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Why do you say this stupid things? just to get a rise?

NHLPA is taking this all the way if its stays at 20...why wouldnt they
Feel free to ignore my guess if you would like.

But if I was the NHLPA I would be wary to test the neutral arbitrator on an abuse of official case.
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