[Trade] Blue Jackets trade Ryan Johansen to Predators for Seth Jones

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Nice to see 2 teams willing to risk something and make a deal. Good hockey trade.

[Gaudfather]

Makes the Jets shot at a wild card even tougher. Greater likelihood now that they deal Ladd and Byfuglien IMHO.

[skudr248]

I am not happy with this... I got ####ing riberio in my fantasy pool and this trade ####s my #### up

[TKB]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

That makes no sense at all.

So Columbus trades a prototypical number one center to Nashville and picks up a very good young defenseman and then turns around and trades him to Edmonton for a puny soft number 2 though kinda decent 2 way center, who's not nearly as good or has the potential of the center that they just traded away.

That's just silly talk and any Oiler who believes that RNH would fetch them jones without a pretty big ad is delusional.

This was the chance for the Oilers to try to balance their lineup and they didn't make a bold move.

figures.

Such a ridiculous comment, how do you know the oilers didn't offer RNH for Jones? If both those deals on are on the table you take the Johansen deal 10 times out of 10.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by skudr248

I am not happy with this... I got ####ing riberio in my fantasy pool and this trade ####s my #### up

I am in the opposite boat - this may really help James Neal!

[saillias]

Reminder: This happened less than 24 hours after this play: https://gfycat.com/NegligibleBlackandwhiteArmedcrab

Originally Posted by skudr248

I am not happy with this... I got ####ing riberio in my fantasy pool and this trade ####s my #### up

Who says his production will drop? Maybe he'll get easier competition now.

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by TKB

Such a ridiculous comment, how do you know the oilers didn't offer RNH for Jones? If both those deals on are on the table you take the Johansen deal 10 times out of 10.

...and that's what CC said too. He's also saying Edmonton should have added a lot to get Jones. They needed him

[JJ1532]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Because a #1 C is generally acquired in the top 5 picks of the draft, somewhere the Predators usually don't pick from. Meanwhile they seem to have a steady stream of top pairing defensemen falling into their laps every few years.

He wanted a mega raise 18 months ago and kept the Blue Jackets dangling right up until the season started. For me, there are serious attitude question marks with him right now. Lets also remember that his play(especially his goalscoring) has fallen off a cliff this season. The pressure is massively on him to rebound from this slump and start banging in the goals. And if he does, what's stopping him doing the same to the Predators as he did to the Blue Jackets and demanding a mega salary, which they will probably struggle to do within their budget?

Yeah, he's a #1C, but there are serious question marks over his attitude and now his play. Not seeing those issues with Jones, plus he has similar top line upside.

And you say Nasvhille seem to fall on their feet for defencemen. Well, what about Columbus? They are bottom of the league and in the best place to draft Matthews. They grab him and suddenly losing Johansen doesn't look so bad.

When you consider everything, I'd say, at the moment, its an even trade. Columbus get a young d-man who can make an impact and stop the flow of goals going in. I doubt they miss Johansen on the goalscoring front. But there are question marks over Jones' upside and might top out as a 2nd line player.

As for Nashville, they get a boost in their offence, which they badly need and don't lose a step on their blue line. But there are attitude question marks over Johansen, so concerns about him, just like Jones. Both are in good spots to replace the player they've lost imo. Like I said, pretty even for me.

[Vinny01]

Many had Seth Jones number 1 in the draft in 2013 which is an extremely deep draft. He is a 6'4 215 Dman that shoots right. He is only 21 and joining a team in a rebuild where he will get top minutes.

Johansen is 6'3 220lb number 1 centre that is 24 years old. He is joining a team that is on the brink of contention and very deep at defense. Nashville on paper is a cup contender with Johansen, Weber, Josi, Forsberg, Neal, Rinne.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Johansen wins this trade. He doesn't have Torts as his coach anymore.

[Dr. Doom]

Originally Posted by JJ1532

He wanted a mega raise 18 months ago and kept the Blue Jackets dangling right up until the season started. For me, there are serious attitude question marks with him right now. Lets also remember that his play(especially his goalscoring) has fallen off a cliff this season. The pressure is massively on him to rebound from this slump and start banging in the goals. And if he does, what's stopping him doing the same to the Predators as he did to the Blue Jackets and demanding a mega salary, which they will probably struggle to do within their budget?

Yeah, he's a #1C, but there are serious question marks over his attitude and now his play. Not seeing those issues with Jones, plus he has similar top line upside.

And you say Nasvhille seem to fall on their feet for defencemen. Well, what about Columbus? They are bottom of the league and in the best place to draft Matthews. They grab him and suddenly losing Johansen doesn't look so bad.

When you consider everything, I'd say, at the moment, its an even trade. Columbus get a young d-man who can make an impact and stop the flow of goals going in. I doubt they miss Johansen on the goalscoring front. But there are question marks over Jones' upside and might top out as a 2nd line player.

As for Nashville, they get a boost in their offence, which they badly need and don't lose a step on their blue line. But there are attitude question marks over Johansen, so concerns about him, just like Jones. Both are in good spots to replace the player they've lost imo. Like I said, pretty even for me.

And Tyler Seguin was partying so hard in Boston near the end he was breaking curfew all the time and wearing the same clothes to the rink day in and day out.

Do you think anyone cares for those stories about him now?

RYJO will be all the noise in Nashville with a supporting cast, he's the real dale talent-wise.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by TKB

Such a ridiculous comment, how do you know the oilers didn't offer RNH for Jones? If both those deals on are on the table you take the Johansen deal 10 times out of 10.

Um did you read the context of my post, it was based around Edmonton fans basically thinking that Columbus would turn around and flip Jones for RNH.

That's what I said is ridiculous. For Columbus to trade their number 1 center for a potential first pairing dman and then turning around and trading that dman to Edmonton for a worse center then the one they traded.

[Mike F]

I like Jones, but I still don't like this trade for Columbus - you don't trade a big, young, skilled #1 centre unless you get one in return or have another already in place.

Ya, Johansen held out last season, but then so did Iginla in 1999 (missed the first three games of the season) and no one (outside of this board) ever accused him of attitude problems. And any questions about his holding out should have been answered by the great season he had last year. To me this looks like the Jackets chose Tortarella over Johansen, which is a terrible choice.

[dash_pinched]

PumperNicholl @PumperNicholl Since June 2011, the Blue Jackets have traded away:

Jake Voracek
Jeff Carter
Rick Nash
Marian Gaborik
Ryan Johansen

[Dr. Doom]

Originally Posted by Mike F

I like Jones, but I still don't like this trade for Columbus - you don't trade a big, young, skilled #1 centre unless you get one in return or have another already in place.

Ya, Johansen held out last season, but then so did Iginla in 1999 (missed the first three games of the season) and no one (outside of this board) ever accused him of attitude problems. To me this looks like the Jackets chose Tortarella over Johansen, which is a terrible choice.

While it does look like that this goes way back, the John Davidson "extortion" comments come to mind lol:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...191358217.html

[TKB]

Originally Posted by Mike F

I like Jones, but I still don't like this trade for Columbus - you don't trade a big, young, skilled #1 centre unless you get one in return or have another already in place.

Ya, Johansen held out last season, but then so did Iginla in 1999 (missed the first three games of the season) and no one (outside of this board) ever accused him of attitude problems. And any questions about his holding out should have been answered by the great season he had last year. To me this looks like the Jackets chose Tortarella over Johansen, which is a terrible choice.

Agreed, this will turn out to be a dreadful deal for Columbus down the road, but I also don't think that highly of Jones like many others do.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

PumperNicholl @PumperNicholl Since June 2011, the Blue Jackets have traded away:

Jake Voracek
Jeff Carter
Rick Nash
Marian Gaborik
Ryan Johansen

They also traded Sean Couturier but technically they traded the pick used to draft him. Could have been Dougie Hamilton or Jonas Brodin as well

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by TKB

Agreed, this will turn out to be a dreadful deal for Columbus down the road, but I also don't think that highly of Jones like many others do.

On what basis?

[sun]

Whoa, big trade. I like it for both sides. BJs did pretty dang good considering Johansen wanted out. I really like Jones, but I think the trade brings a bit of balance to Nashville.

[Huntingwhale]

While I think Jones is the better player, Johanssen fits a much bigger need. The Preds have needed a #1C since their inception. Arnott was as close as they got. I think this is the piece that can get them over the hump. They are set on D with probably the best one in the league and always have a steady stream of top 4 guys coming in. With their luck, their 2nd round picks will end up being franchise Dmen so if I'm Nashville, I'm not too upset with Jones' departure. They are starting to have decent forward depth finally. With Weber's actual pay being much lower then his cap hit, the owners have money to get more pieces.

If Johanssen plays to his potential, I wouldn't be surprised to see them put up a good fight vs the Hawks or Kings in the playoffs. A #1C was what they needed most, and they got it. As long as Weber is in his prime, their window to contend will stay open. I think Jones will fit in well with the BJs in the long run. But IMO the Preds are the winners. But its a great trade for both teams.