2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Erick Estrada]

Maybe Dallas Eakins is the missing link to finally breaking the Honda Center curse? Please make this happen.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by New Era

Frankly, other fans of other teams would look at Giordano and consider him one of the weakest links in the lineup, and that says something

What it says is that you're using an appeal to authority to make your point seem stronger. No collective of fans outside of the Oilers believe Giordano is a weak (or weakest) player. Show evidence. Additionally, the fact that they are simply 'fans of other teams' does not give them any authority of sense above and beyond any fan of this team.

From what I have noticed, Calgary fans more often collectively underrate our players until outside sources back up our feelings, not the other way around. Unless it's in trade proposals, of course

Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto

How about we just stop using the term "Norris caliber" until a Flame wins it or is a nominee. There is nothing "Norris caliber" about 30th on PP and 30th on PK.



Gio Brodie and Hamilton are great players but they are a notch below the truly elite D in the league.

"Norris caliber" is a funny statement. It implies an elite defenceman but you must only be elite offensively to win it. In this sense, Gio and Brodie may be a step below. Taking it how it's being used here, though, and Gio and Brodie are absolutely in the conversation.

The problem is that both are two-way defensemen. Excellent at both but not a Regher nor a Karlsson. It's much harder to get recognition when you're great at it all vs. being elite at just one thing.

I'd take Brodie over Karlsson if given the choice.

[Hells Bells]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I'd take Brodie over Karlsson if given the choice.

1) You're crazy. I love TJ Brodie but he's no Karlsson.
2) This isn't 2012. While Karlsson still has flaws, he's MUCH better defensively than you give him credit for.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Hells Bells

1) You're crazy. I love TJ Brodie but he's no Karlsson.

2) This isn't 2012. While Karlsson still has flaws, he's MUCH better defensively than you give him credit for.

All true, and I didn't mean to slight Karlsson, the guy is dynamite.

My point is exactly that, Brodie is no Karlsson and being a 'Karlsson' is what gets you the Norris-level praise. Brodie turns the crank for this whole team, without him? Dark times on the backend. On the scoresheet Karlsson will always have a bigger mark. My argument is that Brodie is an elite two-way guy who makes his partner better.

[Bowie44]

You guys should definitely be in control of the Norris trophy voting this year!! Such astute observations. Create a separate post if you want to debate Norris consideration or exchange phone numbers and have a date...

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

All true, and I didn't mean to slight Karlsson, the guy is dynamite.

My point is exactly that, Brodie is no Karlsson and being a 'Karlsson' is what gets you the Norris-level praise. Brodie turns the crank for this whole team, without him? Dark times on the backend. On the scoresheet Karlsson will always have a bigger mark. My argument is that Brodie is an elite two-way guy who makes his partner better.

And what do you think Karlsson does?

[flamesfan1297]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Garrioch "rumors":

http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/12/19/...their-fortunes

Rutherford trying to get the Penguins out of rut by making another deal
Listening to offers on Kunitz and Perron

Betting money is on the Ducks to make a coaching change and Trent Yawney, Paul MacLean, Dallas Eakins and Randy Carlyles names have been mentioned

Treliving and Sakic were the most active GMs working the phones early on the season but both have backed off lately. No more urgency as both teams are back in the playoff picture.

Flames have been sniffing around for goaltending help but options are limited

Once the Kopitar extension is signed, Kings will turn their attention to a Lucic extension

Jets aren't close to re-signing Ladd, Byfyuglien, or Trouba

Lots of interest in Johansen
Wild and Jets are kicking tires.

All quiet on the Marleau front.
Belief Marleau will finish season in San Jose and no one will be surprised if he is still in San Jose next year.

Carlyle already coached the ducks, and they fired him. Doubt they want him back.

[Jacks]

I'd like to be a fly on the wall as Eakins is explaining to Getzlaf and Perry how to play the swarm. Getzlaf might punch him.

[Da_Chief]

^Long time ago. I think the only holdovers from that era are probably Fowler, Getzlaf and Perry.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by flamesfan1297

Carlyle already coached the ducks, and they fired him. Doubt they want him back.

The word is Murray didn't want to fire him. At least that is what Friedman has been saying on 960

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Maybe Dallas Eakins is the missing link to finally breaking the Honda Center curse? Please make this happen.

I disagree. I said it before and I will say it again, Eakins is a good coach, he made a stupid choice to take on those entitled brats up North and when he pushed them to play hard, be responsible defensively, and play the way he wanted they simply tuned him out. You could see the guys head was gonna explode trying to reach those kids. I think Eakins would flourish in Anaheim, I would rather they went with someone else.

[Jay Random]

Anyone who thinks ‘the swarm’ is a viable defensive system in the NHL is not a good coach. The Oilers looked worse defensively when they executed Eakins' system properly than when they didn't.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Same here. I still think he's not only an NHLer but a starter. I want to see him get a regular backup spot.

I don't even think Ortio will be the AHL starter by the end of January. Poulin before his injury was much better than Ortio has been and I think after a handful of games to get back into the groove of it he will take the starting job from Ortio.

[sureLoss]

TSN reporting Nashville had talks with the Oilers about RNH before the trade freeze:

http://www.tsn.ca/mondaymustread-ben...prime-1.412341

The Nashville Predators were one of the teams who inquired with Edmonton about the price of Ryan Nugent-Hopkins prior to the roster freeze. For Nashville, it’s the same story: the Preds are a gifted defensive team, but thin up front and down the middle. If the Stanley Cup playoffs began today, Nashville would face Dallas in the first round. That probably wouldn’t end well for them. Life is about to get tougher for the sputtering Predators, too. It’s been more than a month since Nashville won back-to-back games - and the Predators have enjoyed the NHL’s fifth-easiest schedule this season, according to hockey-reference.com. Starting on Dec. 29, nine of Nashville’s next 14 games will be against Central division opponents. They are 8-9-4 since playing their first divisional game on Nov. 5.

Kind of interesting cause Poile sometimes has a habit of making unnecessary high cost moves in attempts to go deep in the playoffs.

[Ozy_Flame]

With a defense like Weber, Jones, Josi and to some extent Ellis, you'd have to think the greasers are talking defensemen. Perhaps they brought Fayne up to showcase him in a future trade? I could see this centering around Seth Jones, he's not having a good season and Chia is probably exploring a buy-low scenario.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

TSN reporting Nashville had talks with the Oilers about RNH before the trade freeze:

http://www.tsn.ca/mondaymustread-ben...prime-1.412341



Kind of interesting cause Poile sometimes has a habit of making unnecessary high cost moves in attempts to go deep in the playoffs.

Interesting too because Nashville is so deep at D, which the Oilers need in a big way. But if Edmonton was asking for Jones, I'm hanging up the phone if I'm Poile.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

With a defense like Weber, Jones, Josi and to some extent Ellis, you'd have to think the greasers are talking defensemen. Perhaps they brought Fayne up to showcase him in a future trade? I could see this centering around Seth Jones, he's not having a good season and Chia is probably exploring a buy-low scenario.

He's having a fine season, nothing spectacular but not bad either. He's developing and getting better.

When you fail to mention Ekholm and say to "some extent Ellis" leads me to believe you don't really know much about Preds D.

As far as the rumour goes, I don't think they will move Jones. Probably a deal around Ellis.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

He's having a fine season, nothing spectacular but not bad either. He's developing and getting better.

When you fail to mention Ekholm and say to "some extent Ellis" leads me to believe you don't really know much about Preds D.

As far as the rumour goes, I don't think they will move Jones. Probably a deal around Ellis.

I completely disagree. He's not having a good year, he's on pace for his lowest point count since starting in the NHL, and he's having trouble hitting the net (has the lowest shooting percentage on the team) . . . Maybe he's being overshadowed by Josi and Weber, but he's not having an improvement season and I suspect Chia is circling.

Also, I think you underrate Ellis.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I completely disagree. He's not having a good year, he's on pace for his lowest point count since starting in the NHL, and he's having trouble hitting the net (has the lowest shooting percentage on the team) . . . Maybe he's being overshadowed by Josi and Weber, but he's not having an improvement season and I suspect Chia is circling.

Also, I think you underrate Ellis.

Having a low shooting percentage doesn't mean he has trouble hitting the net, it means he's hitting the net but they're not going in.

[Ozy_Flame]

Oh sorry, my mistake. You're right.