2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Larry David]

No surprises here.

Link on Sportsnet via Eric Francis:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/c...iers-contract/

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Excellent job Torts. Potentially antagonize one of your best players and at the same time devalue him on the trade market. Knowing how Torts managed the Sedins, I think Johansen still will have plenty left in the tank with a competent coach.

The situation reminds me a bit of the O'Reilly saga in Colorado. Good player, but perhaps an inflated opinion as to his own value. Buffalo appeared to overpay for O'Reilly at first glance, but I don't think they regret that trade now.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by Larry David

No surprises here.

Link on Sportsnet via Eric Francis:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/c...iers-contract/

How could the FLames justify another 4 million on goalies though.

[Larry David]

Originally Posted by DJones

How could the FLames justify another 4 million on goalies though.

If Hiller is the return.

[robaur]

Originally Posted by DJones

How could the FLames justify another 4 million on goalies though.

I believe Hiller and Ramo are both on expiring contracts, so they're looking at next year as well.

[Fan in Exile]

Originally Posted by DJones

How could the FLames justify another 4 million on goalies though.

Reading that article, Francis doesn't see Bernier's upside and says Babcock and the whole Leafs organization can't see his upside. Come on. What a joke. This is exactly the kind of situation where you land a goalie. Every goalie has their struggles. Sharks gave up on Kipper. The Flyers gave up on Bobrovsky. The BJs gave up on Mason. The Lightning gave up on Mike Smith. The list goes on and on. Much stranger things have happened than Bernier finding his form. He looked very solid just a year ago and no one wanted Reimer.

It might turn out this year or next, or it might not. But I see no harm in trying if the price is right. I don't see that the Flames have much to lose.

[Benched]

Originally Posted by Fan in Exile

Reading that article, Francis doesn't see Bernier's upside and says Babcock and the whole Leafs organization can't see his upside. Come on. What a joke. This is exactly the kind of situation where you land a goalie. Every goalie has their struggles. Sharks gave up on Kipper. The Flyers gave up on Bobrovsky. The BJs gave up on Mason. The Lightning gave up on Mike Smith. The list goes on and on. Much stranger things have happened than Bernier finding his form. He looked very solid just a year ago and no one wanted Reimer.

It might turn out this year or next, or it might not. But I see no harm in trying if the price is right. I don't see that the Flames have much to lose.

Dubynk too!

[Mister Yamoto]

I don't think that the solution to the 3 headed monster is to bring in a fourth goalie. Even if you just bury Hiller in the minors thats still too many goalies.

The Flames are actually in a good position right now as Hiller, Ramo and Ortio are all coming off the books this year. Just wait it out and let this mess solve itself. Don't bring in another teams garbage especially if they are signed past this year.

[Poe969]

Because of the Burke trade freeze, I think we'll see something like Bernier + Grabner for Hiller + Raymond in January.

That being said, if there's a way to get Johansen without giving Monahan, Gaudreau, Bennett, Brodie or Hamilton then we should.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto

I don't think that the solution to the 3 headed monster is to bring in a fourth goalie. Even if you just bury Hiller in the minors thats still too many goalies.

The Flames are actually in a good position right now as Hiller, Ramo and Ortio are all coming off the books this year. Just wait it out and let this mess solve itself. Don't bring in another teams garbage especially if they are signed past this year.

I'm tired of hearing about the 3 headed monster. The Flames have 2 goalies on their roster. Ortio was put on waivers and is now in the minors. If the Flames pick up a goalie and trade one away it would still just be a 2 headed monster... or a regular situation. There really is no goalie controversy in Calgary right now other than not having a real starter.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Because of the Burke trade freeze, I think we'll see something like Bernier + Grabner for Hiller + Raymond in January.

That being said, if there's a way to get Johansen without giving Monahan, Gaudreau, Bennett, Brodie or Hamilton then we should.

In regards to the Leaf deal the only way the Flames should do it now is if they can move one or more of those bad contracts next year. If we could even out the money even better.

Hiller, Raymond, Bollig
For
Bernier, Grabner, Mathias

[Yrebmi]

Does the famous Burke trade freeze still apply with Brad Treliving in charge?

Although this close to Christmas I think there may even be a league freeze

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Yrebmi

Does the famous Burke trade freeze still apply with Brad Treliving in charge?

Although this close to Christmas I think there may even be a league freeze

Yes Treliving put a trade freeze last year.

The NHL's official one is Dec 19 to Dec 27

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Exactly. This is on Johansen not Torts as the issues pre-date his hiring. I'm kind of surprised how so many fans that would avoid Kassain because he's a problem player are willing to overlook what is clearly a problem player in Johansen albeit more gifted talent-wise.

The Johansen situation is much closer to what Boston went thru with Seguin, than what Buffalo/Vancouver/Montreal have experienced with Kassian.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto

I don't think that the solution to the 3 headed monster is to bring in a fourth goalie. Even if you just bury Hiller in the minors thats still too many goalies.

The Flames are actually in a good position right now as Hiller, Ramo and Ortio are all coming off the books this year. Just wait it out and let this mess solve itself. Don't bring in another teams garbage especially if they are signed past this year.

Right now it's a 1 headed monster.

Hiller and Ortio are assess.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah John Davidson is well known for being abrasive and not player friendly.

Davidson's the president, Kekaleinen is the gm, and I have no idea how he is in negotiations. Aside from the fact they both were pretty negative in public about Johansens's agent and Johansen's position (called it "extortion".)

[greentree]

Chiming in late here. I watched Johansen play the other night and he was godawful. As in, zero compete, with lazy plays including one that cost his team the game in OT. If I was a BJ fan I'd have been furious.
He certainly deserved to be scratched.
Do not want.

edit: At least he knows he caused this himself:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/r...trade-rumours/

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by greentree

Chiming in late here. I watched Johansen play the other night and he was godawful. As in, zero compete, with lazy plays including one that cost his team the game in OT. If I was a BJ fan I'd have been furious.
He certainly deserved to be scratched.
Do not want.

edit: At least he knows he caused this himself:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/r...trade-rumours/

He didn't just forget how to play, it is obvious he wants the hell out of there and has no drive to compete for that team right now.

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Right now it's a 1 headed monster.

Hiller and Ortio are assess.

Thanked for making me laugh not agreement.
I still have hopes for Ortio

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Yrebmi

I still have hopes for Ortio

Same here. I still think he's not only an NHLer but a starter. I want to see him get a regular backup spot.