GT: Federal Election

[Looch City]

What we should do is gather everyone up, split into 'left' and 'right' teams...and have a giant paintball fight in the woods. Winning team claims their political representative is better than the other political representative.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

What we should do is gather everyone up, split into 'left' and 'right' teams...and have a giant paintball fight in the woods. Winning team claims their political representative is better than the other political representative.

I'm a centrist so I'll just relax in a lawn chair and drink a beer while this happens.

[jayswin]

Are you kidding me guys? Beliebers, JT lovers. You guys sound so stupid, this truly is the beginning of the Americanization of Canadian politics. So brutal.

[Blaster86]

Harperites! Conservifriends!

[Senator Clay Davis]

^^ Honestly they deserve a little slack. They've gotten their asses kicked in two elections this year to their two worst nightmares: The NDP and a Trudeau. I'm actually surprised they aren't more bitter all things considered.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

What we should do is gather everyone up, split into 'left' and 'right' teams...

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

^^ Honestly they deserve a little slack.

Originally Posted by jayswin

You guys sound so stupid,

this truly is the beginning of the Americanization of Canadian politics

Agreed, this divisive language and mindset reminds me a whole lot of American politics.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by zamler

Agreed, this divisive language and mindset reminds me a whole lot of American politics.

What a hypocrite! Don't even try to come off as some kind of moderate.

Shall we go through go through this thread and cherry pick your posting history? You put on quite a performance election night and the following few days.

"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

[PsYcNeT]

To be fair, in the US they literally call their pres Obummer, Obongo, Barack Hussein Obama, B-Ho, A Crock O'Drama, Barack Ovomit, Obama Bin Laden, etc. etc. etc.

I think we have a ways to go until we sink to that level of rhetoric.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

What a hypocrite! Don't even try to come off as some kind of moderate.

Shall we go through go through this thread and cherry pick your posting history? You put on quite a performance election night and the following few days.

"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

What the hell ... Let's take a look.

Originally Posted by zamler

That will be great and all, but the sponsorship scandal v2.0 is what I am really looking forward to.

Originally Posted by zamler

This doesn't make me feel better.

I can't vote Liberal because I honestly don't think Trudeau has any idea what he's doing. He will win the election just because people don't want the Cons anymore. That's it.

Originally Posted by zamler

Trudeau gives zero craps about Alberta.

Originally Posted by zamler

It's not that simple. Not only will the Liberal government not care one bit about Alberta except using it as a cash cow, but has literally promised to recklessly spend and then hope it can all be somehow paid for in some magical future.

Originally Posted by zamler

National interest trumps all, problem is Trudeau thinks that Quebec is the national interest. He had said so in very clear terms and I highly doubt in 5 years he has abandoned such a deeply held belief.

We are in for a rough ride. All of us.

Originally Posted by zamler

The stomach turning has just started. I think people are going to get tired of his BS really really quickly. And he is all BS and no substance I have no doubt about that.

Originally Posted by zamler

This defines the man. Reminds me of that Eddie Murphy movie where he gets elected because he happens to have the same name as a Congressman who died.

Originally Posted by zamler

Well the first thing he is going to do is spend lots and lots of money way beyond our means. I have no idea why so many people are okay with this....

Originally Posted by zamler

Yes, but I highly doubt JT has the balls to do the same. I'll be pleasantly surprised if he does.

You could be projecting here...

Originally Posted by zamler

So you don't care if JT is a man of his word or not. Or you just swallow his nonsense campaign rhetoric without question.

Originally Posted by zamler

It will take a small miracle for our budget not to be a dumpster fire. I'm not kidding.

Originally Posted by zamler

FFS we've elected a complete idiot

[zamler]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

I think we have a ways to go until we sink to that level of rhetoric.

That won't happen here thankfully. The political landscape in the U.S. is incredibly partisan when I first moved there when people asked me if I was a Democrat or Republican I didn't know what the heck to say, and didn't understand why people were defining themselves by how they voted. It took awhile for me to "get it" and understand what that was really all about.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Are you kidding me guys? Beliebers, JT lovers. You guys sound so stupid, this truly is the beginning of the Americanization of Canadian politics. So brutal.

Oh please. Canadian politics have been "Americanized" for over a decade now. And that went both ways. Soldiers. With Guns. In our Cities.

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

^^ Honestly they deserve a little slack. They've gotten their asses kicked in two elections this year to their two worst nightmares: The NDP and a Trudeau. I'm actually surprised they aren't more bitter all things considered.

Indeed. I would say 'my side', while bitter, has not shown nearly the same level of bitterness 'your side' did over the past decade.

[northcrunk]

It's pretty funny/sad that the Liberal ad about soldiers in our streets ect. sort of came true during the G20 in Toronto.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Oh please. Canadian politics have been "Americanized" for over a decade now. And that went both ways. Soldiers. With Guns. In our Cities.

Two decades. The face ad.

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Indeed. I would say 'my side', while bitter, has not shown nearly the same level of bitterness 'your side' did over the past decade.

Out of curiosity, what was brought up that was similar to "Nannygate", as it has been dubbed, that the media latched on to with Harper?

Not because I don't think it happened, but because I can't actually think of any.

[redforever]

JT campaigned on and said that wealthy families like his don't need the Enhanced Universal Child Care Benefit introduced by the previous Conservative government. If he now reneges on accepting that $2000 to $3000 sum, then there is something to talk about and get riled up about.

Also, this expense shows Canadians how much support is required to make high public office possible for women, men, and single parents of young families.

Begrudging a nanny or nannies for 3 young children of the leader of a country is merely being petty. It is peanuts in the big picture.

This is what is wrong in politics...the petty bickering to ad nauseum of every and any subject. That only spins the wheels and accomplishes nothing.

He never campaigned on the premise that he would forego benefits that come with the PM office.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Out of curiosity, what was brought up that was similar to "Nannygate", as it has been dubbed, that the media latched on to with Harper?

Just off the top of my head Wafergate.

There were lots of other silly things like $13 orange juice, when body bags were accidently sent to a reserve and the Liberals said instead of sending vaccines Harper expected them to die of H1N1, etc.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Holy crap, 6 pages blathering on about Trudeau's nannies? This is ridiculous, optics or not this registers so low on the "give-a-####" meter that it isn't even worth picking a side on. So what's next, the media jumps on Trudeau for chewing gum or for bowing too low to the Japanese prime minister? The Americanization of our politics really sucks

You may think so and you may even be right, but it is a big deal regardless.

So much so even the BBC has it on the front page of their website.

http://www.bbc.com/

[GGG]

All that shows is that journalism is dying.

[flylock shox]

I would think it kind of embarrassing for our PM to have to worry about making child care arrangements, renovating his drafty PM house, flying business class on Air Canada instead of a PM plane, having to make sure the OJ he drinks while out of the country is cheap OJ, staying at the Super 8 rather than the Marriott, etc.

A country has to have some level of decorum and national pride.

[Ryan Coke]

Yeah, I have no problem with the PM getting Nannies paid for.

However he made it an issue in his case with his own words. And it wouldn't have been an issue if he hadn't said what he did. It's his own fault, and it is deserved.

But it isn't like it is going to topple the Liberal government or anything.

[Resolute 14]

Beyond that, everyone should have known that literally anything that smacks of taxpayer money for personal benefit was going to be scrutinized and criticized.