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Old 06-30-2015, 11:31 PM   #1261
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I still think Wideman is a top 4 D on the Flames. If anything it is Russell that gets knocked down to the bottom pairing.

I trade Wideman if we can get a legit top 6 winger that is in the 22-28 age group and then sign a decent depth Dman this summer. Otherwise I think we keep him around
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:40 PM   #1262
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I still think Wideman is a top 4 D on the Flames. If anything it is Russell that gets knocked down to the bottom pairing.

I trade Wideman if we can get a legit top 6 winger that is in the 22-28 age group and then sign a decent depth Dman this summer. Otherwise I think we keep him around
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:45 PM   #1263
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Come now, they're not gonna trade those guys.

Let's just settle for Teemu Pulkkinen.
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:47 PM   #1264
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Wideman is still the 2nd best Right shooting D on the team, the best Right shot, a vet, and a minute eater. He doesn't skate great, but pair him with BRODIE and they are pretty dynamic.

Russell, being the 3rd best leftie D, is also a natural pair for Engelland, can still step up and play 25min every time, and will take a lot less beating on the 3rd pair if he doesn't have to block so many shots. I bet his possession is much better too.

Might also be cheaper to re-sign in a year.
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Old 07-01-2015, 12:32 AM   #1265
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Unless he gets run out of town he will be. 2 years left.

Personally I don't see any reason to reduce his ice time significantly. 56 point seasons are no joke, you want to maximize his offense with O-zone starts, PP time and put him out there with the 1st line etc.

This. I'm sure Hartley will capitalize on Wideman's offensive prowess while still managing D minutes properly. Just spitballing here:

Gio-Brodie = 22 minutes TOI
Hamilton-Russell = 21 minutes
Wideman-Engelland = 17 minutes TOI

Give or take. Helps keep all the D fresh and reduce chance of injury. And then Calgary averaged 6 minutes and 12 seconds of PP time per game.

Gio-Brodie = 3:27
Wideman-Hamilton = 2:45

Give or take.

Throw in favorable O-zone starts and line matching, etc. and Wideman will get his points.
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Old 07-01-2015, 04:35 AM   #1266
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Bob Murray mentioned late Tuesday evening that he made 1 and 2 year offers for Beauchemin but Beauchemin wants a 3 year deal around 5 M per. Murray said he will not be re-signed and will sign with another team.
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Old 07-01-2015, 07:24 AM   #1267
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Pierre LeBrun of ESPN: Phil Kessel is owed a $4 million signing bonus tomorrow. The Leafs may have liked to move him before, but they realize the best trade offer may come after the payment is made. Source said that the Flames kicked tires on Kessel at the draft. The Leafs weren’t willing to retain any salary, but were willing to take back some contracts to lighten the salary/cap hit. LeBrun can’t see the Leafs making a deal without retaining some salary.
http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2015/06/30/rumors-viii/

I wonder which Flames would've been going back the other way?
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Old 07-01-2015, 09:14 AM   #1268
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I imagine Wideman would have been part of that deal.
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Old 07-01-2015, 09:38 AM   #1269
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Hearing that Leafs circled back to Calgary today on Kessel trade talk but don't see a fit right now....
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Old 07-01-2015, 09:39 AM   #1270
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Hearing talks btw #Leafs and #Pens heating up again on Kessel. Told trade could happen as early as today. #signingseason
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Old 07-01-2015, 09:39 AM   #1271
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You meant ever, Pierre. Don't see a fit ever.
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Old 07-01-2015, 09:56 AM   #1272
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Bob Murray mentioned late Tuesday evening that he made 1 and 2 year offers for Beauchemin but Beauchemin wants a 3 year deal around 5 M per. Murray said he will not be re-signed and will sign with another team.
Just head scratching that they would extend Bitchska for roughly the same dollars. Beauchemin was a legitimate force against the Flames whereas Bitchska was a liability.

beauchemin is also legitimately tough and only fights less cause he doesn't spot pick.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:00 AM   #1273
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Would honestly love to see John Moore being picked up as part of the extra NHL calibre depth for this team. Surprising that he wasn't qualified. Wonder if anybody knows the reasons why.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:02 AM   #1274
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Would honestly love to see John Moore being picked up as part of the extra NHL calibre depth for this team. Surprising that he wasn't qualified. Wonder if anybody knows the reasons why.
He's below average defensively.
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If the Leafs retain 2M of his salary, and take back one or more of Smid/Raymond/Hiller, then Kessel would be very valuable to this team.
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If the Leafs retain 2M of his salary, and take back one or more of Smid/Raymond/Hiller, then Kessel would be very valuable to this team.
He'd also cost an arm and a leg.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:06 AM   #1277
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LeBrun already said that the Leafs are unwilling to retain salary on Kessel or Phaneuf
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:07 AM   #1278
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Kessel to Pittsburgh trade almost done according to NHL Network/Sportsnet.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:08 AM   #1279
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:12 AM   #1280
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Kessel to Pittsburgh trade almost done according to NHL Network/Sportsnet.
Perhaps that's why Ward is jumping around the TSN studio?
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