[Rumour] Dreger: Calgary pushing hard for Talbot. McKenzie: Flames have interest in Jones too

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Cory Schneider was a backup too.

Ben Bishop was buried as well.

I still say that there are only two ways to get a high-end/possibly elite goalie. You either draft him yourself, or you acquire him before he truly reaches his potential. It's all about NHL scouting.

[nik-]

Talbot and Klein for 9/11/12?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The Gm that offered a 1st round pick for Talbot should be relieved if his duties before he makes any other mistakes.

The Oilers could probably afford to give up the 16th pick because they are going to have issues down the road retaining all their 1st rounders and Talbot addresses their biggest organization need outside of a 1, 2, 3, & 4 defenseman.

[Yamer]

Adding the stories up it means a pick in a future draft.

Still a steep price, IMO.

[_Q_]

I like both Jones and Talbot.

I think it's smart that Treliving is looking at both goalies as an option. If one GM starts to ask too much, he can just point to the fact that he has other options (including just saying no to both and riding out the season with Hiller)

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The Oilers could probably afford to give up the 16th pick because they are going to have issues down the road retaining all their 1st rounders and Talbot addresses their biggest organization need outside of a 1, 2, 3, & 4 defenseman.

Chiarelli already announced at morning press conference today that he wasn't going to trade 16th OA for a goalie.

If he went back on it now he would look like quite the fool.

[sureLoss]

clarification from Brooks:

Larry Brooks @NYP_Brooksie
Rangers have not been offered 9th, 11th or 12th overall pick straight up for Talbot. NYR would have to give up more...

Larry Brooks @NYP_Brooksie
Should clarify...also possibility that NYR would have to take on bad contract, for which they'd have no space to keep their team intact...

So its 9th, 11th or 12th + bad contract for Talbot +

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Chiarelli already announced at morning press conference today that he wasn't going to trade 16th OA for a goalie.

If he went back on it now he would look like quite the fool.

The fact that he's not willing to do that tells that Sather isn't going to get a 1st as they are the one team that could afford to offer the 1st.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Muta

These prices for Talbot are getting insane.

Then again, Ottawa did just get a 1st rounder for bit parts, so who am I to say anything.

Robin Lehner isn't a bit part.

[Mattman]

This doesnt make sense. I don't know why we are going all fiasco in the Goaltending area we've been average and made the playoffs with average stats.

But if I had to pick I would choose Martin Jones over Talbot. The price tag is too high on for a 27 year old back up.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Mattman

This doesnt make sense. I don't know why we are going all fiasco in the Goaltending area we've been average and made the playoffs with average stats.

But if I had to pick I would choose Martin Jones over Talbot. The price tag is too high on for a 27 year old back up.

Here's a very well written reason why the Flames are going crazy in the goalie market right now.

Darren Haynes ‏@DarrenWHaynes 20m20 minutes ago
For those wondering why the Flames are sniffing around for a goalie anyway. I explained that last week in this piece: http://flamesfrom80feet.blogspot.ca/...of-flames.html …

[getbak]

Originally Posted by AcGold

I don't like this at all, why do we all of a sudden need goalies. Ramo didn't lose us the series, our small decimated d core did. The goalie tandem worked great I don't see why we don't just go with exactly the same as last year and wait for one of our prospects to become the #1. Hell, Ortio might steal the spot this season.

The whole thing is very fishy. What's the obsession with trading Hiller and then getting a new goalie? We have 3 prospects... please no Treliving, please. Minnesota and New York didn't win the Cup with their elite goaltenders. Chicago did with their well built team and near average goalie.

Ramo isn't under contract and will become a UFA in less than a week. One of the things he's likely looking for, wherever he signs, is the chance to be the undisputed #1. He's unlikely to come back to Calgary for a repeat of last season.

If Treliving has spoken with Ramo, Dubnyk, and Niemi and thinks their asking prices are too high, then he has to look elsewhere if he thinks he needs another goalie for next season.


I suspect he has at least one offer for Hiller that he really wants to take, but won't make that move until he has solidified the goalie situation without Hiller. On the radio last week, after talking about being happy with Hiller and Ramo, he said something about using your goaltending depth to improve the team at other positions.

If Treliving believes that the difference between Hiller and Talbot isn't significant and the return for Hiller can be significant, it makes sense for him to try to make the deal. While we're seeing the deal as Talbot for two second round picks, Treliving may be seeing it as Talbot plus Hiller's trade value for Hiller and two seconds.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Robin Lehner isn't a bit part.

Fair enough, I personally don't think he's anything special.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Here's a very well written reason why the Flames are going crazy in the goalie market right now.

Darren Haynes ‏@DarrenWHaynes 20m20 minutes ago
For those wondering why the Flames are sniffing around for a goalie anyway. I explained that last week in this piece: http://flamesfrom80feet.blogspot.ca/...of-flames.html …

This should be mandatory reading.

[Caged Great]

I would be fine with the Flames acquiring one of the goalies if they used prospects to get the job done. The Flames do have a log jam of forwards and even defensemen that they could use in a deal. I would not want them to use picks though, even if they are for next year to make it work.

I'd much rather they dealt Klimchuk or something if they absolutely had to.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I would be fine with the Flames acquiring one of the goalies if they used prospects to get the job done. The Flames do have a log jam of forwards and even defensemen that they could use in a deal. I would not want them to use picks though, even if they are for next year to make it work.

I'd much rather they dealt Klimchuk or something if they absolutely had to.

You'd sooner them deal Klimchuk than the 53rd overall? Why?

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

You'd sooner them deal Klimchuk than the 53rd overall? Why?

I am assuming they are talking about dealing a 1st for Talbot. I'd rather they use someone like Klimchuk instead of what will likely be a better player either this year or next if they deal the 2016 1st.

[Bingo]

^ yeah I wouldn't do that.

Klimchuk may never be an elite talent but his skill set says NHLer ... why throw that away instead of a 2nd round pick with a much smaller chance of playing. Take the almost sure thing over the most likely never plays any day.

[Vinny01]

Getting sick of only hearing the Flames interested in goalies. We need a top 4 Dman and 1-2 top 6 wingers. Hopefully the Rangers send a Dman back in a deal for Talbot if it happens

[Imported_Aussie]

Originally Posted by Bingo

^ yeah I wouldn't do that.

Klimchuk may never be an elite talent but his skill set says NHLer ... why throw that away instead of a 2nd round pick with a much smaller chance of playing. Take the almost sure thing over the most likely never plays any day.

Agree on this - to me, Klimchuk is a middle 6, 2-way winger. He will be the 3rd guy on a second line or a guy with a bigger role on the 3rd line.
One thing that has been consistent in his junior representative days was he was often the 3rd guy on a big line - he knows how to play his role with more skilled players. Would not surprise me at all to see him being a "glue" player in Calgary in 2 seasons time