03-03-2015, 08:38 PM
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#161
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regorium
If I were him, I would not be scared of papers at all. He is legally protected, and can easily say that he was making a joke to his inner circle of friends (regardless of the @TSN or whatever he did). The lawsuit against the tweeter is a scare-tactic and a public shaming mechanism.
I'm glad he's standing up to the public shaming and bullying so far, but who knows. I'd say the real time for him to be scared is when internet warriors start doxing him and sending death threats to him and his family.
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How is he legally protected?
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03-03-2015, 08:47 PM
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#162
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jan 2014
Exp:  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
Sure it is. That's the whole point.
People should be able to say that a player had sex with a donkey, if they want.
Freedom of speech is freedom of speech.
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Really? So we're all good to post whatever we want about you, put it on national tv and your're good with that? All of our rights have limits and to paraphrase someone way smarter than me, your right to do something stops when it infringes on my rights.
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03-03-2015, 08:49 PM
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#163
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Antithesis
According to a quick Wikipedia search, with the provision that IANAL, it does not seem that plaintiffs in defamation suits in Canada need to prove damages.
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Read this case:
Hill v Church of Scientology of Toronto [1995] 2 S.C.R. 1130
Last edited by IamNotKenKing; 03-03-2015 at 08:54 PM.
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03-03-2015, 09:29 PM
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#164
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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As for why broadcast nets post tweets in the first place, do you guys really not understand the power of heavy engagement of your hashtag on a social network with nearly 300 million active users? Adding immediate value to the broadcast is not the intention.
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03-03-2015, 09:34 PM
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#165
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Appears that the tweeter has now deleted his feed. Won't help his case. Now he can't post a public apology.
He would have been much better served to apologize profusely and then move on.
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03-03-2015, 09:46 PM
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#166
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Yamer
And how much worse would it be if it were seemingly legitimized by a professionally respected media source?
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Legitimized lol. Ya because everyone who read it was like it's on TSNs twitter feed it has to be true. It gave it exposure but I don't think anyone believed it was more than a joke.
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03-03-2015, 09:50 PM
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#167
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Franchise Player
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If you can get sued for trolling on social media, I'm in a lot of trouble...
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03-03-2015, 10:12 PM
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#168
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hackey
Legitimized lol. Ya because everyone who read it was like it's on TSNs twitter feed it has to be true. It gave it exposure but I don't think anyone believed it was more than a joke.
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It was more a general notion (and note that whole italicized seemingly prefacing the term), but I think you would be surprised.
It received national (perhaps international) exposure, which frankly is legitimate enough.
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03-03-2015, 10:14 PM
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#169
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Not the 1 millionth post winnar
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Los Angeles
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Has twitter ever done anything good?
For anyone?
Ever?
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03-03-2015, 10:18 PM
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#170
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Sure helped get our mayor (Calgary) elected. Though that could be argued whether it has done anyone good, lol.
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03-03-2015, 10:22 PM
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#171
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flashpoint
Has twitter ever done anything good?
For anyone?
Ever?
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Aside from breaking every piece of news posted to this site the internet in the last however many years?
Nah.
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03-03-2015, 10:25 PM
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#172
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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The story here is TSN/Bell Media showing that garbage.
You don't have to go too far to see much more disgusting and vile stuff on twitter towards public/sports figures, or, their kids. While this guy tweeting the Phaneuf stuff is a loser, there are much more disturbed people out there.
From the last couple days, Exhibit a) http://deadspin.com/curt-schilling-g...g-h-1688969687
Schilling does what needs to be done in outing those guys, which will have repercussions for those guys now as long as there is an internet search engine.
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03-03-2015, 10:25 PM
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#173
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
German born hockey player needed a nickname on draft day and this is what some doofus came up with on twitter. A term used by the Nazi's for the Jewish genocide. Utterly tasteless and made it to T.V. Yet, that is acceptable humor on the internet. I didn't like it as the kid had nothing to do with the past other than being born in Germany. It's just insulting on too many different levels.
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Kinda late on this response, but nailed it.
I so badly want this to be a funny 600goals/1300points, something special... joke, because again some stupid Edmonton fan thought this guy would finally solve their problems.
But I think about the undertones in this joke and know its a joke that just doesn't need to be made, and even as an Oiler Leon does not deserve to be associated with that.
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03-03-2015, 10:43 PM
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#174
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
It was more a general notion (and note that whole italicized seemingly prefacing the term), but I think you would be surprised.
It received national (perhaps international) exposure, which frankly is legitimate enough.
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I would be surprised because between my friends in real life, the posters on here and various other places online I didn't find anything that would lead me to believe people viewed it as anything more than a joke (or a bad joke) but maybe you seen otherwise. It was on a twitter feed which people realize is random viewers txting in. I just don't think people confuse some random kids tweet as a legitimate source.
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03-03-2015, 10:44 PM
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#175
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2013
Exp: 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corporatejay
jesus christ, I need a super "you keep using that word but I don't think you know what it means" meme for freedom of speech.
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Mohammod, I agree but could you please find another way to show how your frustrations with those who do not appreciate the fine art of freedom of speech?
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03-03-2015, 10:46 PM
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#176
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hackey
I would be surprised because between my friends in real life, the posters on here and various other places online I didn't find anything that would lead me to believe people viewed it as anything more than a joke (or a bad joke) but maybe you seen otherwise. It was on a twitter feed which people realize is random viewers txting in. I just don't think people confuse some random kids tweet as a legitimate source.
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When someone hashtags a tweet, they do so to get people to read their tweet. It allows people who are following a hashtag trend to see their tweet. The tweeter hashtagged his tweet specifically to get it beyond his internal group of friends.
Last edited by ben voyonsdonc; 03-03-2015 at 10:49 PM.
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03-03-2015, 10:50 PM
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#177
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Franchise Player
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The tweets to Schilling' daughter were definitely taking it too far. I can respect him sticking up for his daughter in that situation without a doubt. As bad as it is to say I don't feel the same about Phaneuf. It was one bad tweet that should have never got to air. Fire the guy. Apologize to Phaneuf, Cuthbert, and Lupul and make amends how you feel appropriate. Make sure it doesn't happen again. Move on.
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03-03-2015, 10:52 PM
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#178
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc
When someone hashtags a tweet, they do so to get people to read their tweet. It allows people who are following a hashtag trend to see their tweet. The tweeter hashtagged his tweet specifically to get it beyond his internal group of friends.
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Obviously he wanted it to get to air. Probably didn't think in a million years it would. But that is irrelevant to what we were discussing.
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03-03-2015, 10:58 PM
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#179
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Anyways, this article was discussed in another thread but I think it also belongs here: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/15...html?referrer=
Last edited by ben voyonsdonc; 03-03-2015 at 11:00 PM.
Reason: Didn't want to bog down thread
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03-03-2015, 11:00 PM
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#180
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc
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How does him wanting his tweet to be read have anything to do with people viewing the tweet as legitimate? You obviously misunderstood something along the way because your talking about something completely different than what Yamer and I were talking about.
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