Phaneuf, Cuthbert, and Lupul seeking damages from TSN & Tweeter

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Buster

Sure it is. That's the whole point.

People should be able to say that a player had sex with a donkey, if they want.

Freedom of speech is freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech has to be regulated by the truth, you want to lie about someone that isn't speech it's libel, rumours ain't truth.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Buster

Sure it is. That's the whole point.

People should be able to say that a player had sex with a donkey, if they want.

Freedom of speech is freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech protects our rights to express our ideas and opinions but doesn't provide protection against spreading misinformation against individuals in what is known as the harm principle.

[ToraToraTora]

Originally Posted by codynw

No it's not. Freedom of speech means you're allowed to express your opinions and ideas without being censored or punished. Making stories up about a person isn't an idea or opinion. It's garbage.

And Freedom of Speech really only applies against the government/government entities.

[corporatejay]

jesus christ, I need a super "you keep using that word but I don't think you know what it means" meme for freedom of speech.

[codynw]

To be clear, I don't think the original tweet is that big of a deal. It was stupid, but if TSN didn't show it on TV this conversation wouldn't be happening.

[jschick88]

David Shoalts @dshoalts ·
Remember, Phaneuf, Cuthbert, Lupul also going after author of offending tweet. That is the Lord's work. Twitter accountability much needed.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

jesus christ, I need a super "you keep using that word but I don't think you know what it means" meme for freedom of speech.

Reminds me of people who do something real annoying and say "it's a free country, I can do what I want!!!!" when someone asks them to stop.

[northcrunk]

Makes them look pretty petty going after a single tweeter. IMO TSN is the responsible party as they broadcast the tweet which would have been seen by maybe 10 people otherwise. Good luck getting cash Dion/Cuthbert/Lupul as TSN immedietly issued an apology. The question is: Does this legal action cause other NHL teams around the league to view Dion and Lupol as 'blacklisted'?

[ToraToraTora]

Originally Posted by codynw

Reminds me of people who do something real annoying and say "it's a free country, I can do what I want!!!!" when someone asks them to stop.

Thought this was 'Merica.

[Calgary14]

Well that escalated quickly

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

Makes them look pretty petty going after a single tweeter. IMO TSN is the responsible party as they broadcast the tweet which would have been seen by maybe 10 people otherwise. Good luck getting cash Dion/Cuthbert/Lupul as TSN immedietly issued an apology. The question is: Does this legal action cause other NHL teams around the league to view Dion and Lupol as 'blacklisted'?

The tweeter sent it specifically to get on the, so the onus is on the tweeter. TSN simply failed to filter

[the_only_turek_fan]

Good to see. They should sue. It is outright slander.

I really hope they win this suit.

[flamesfan55]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Why does how much money he has play into it? Maybe he will donate it all to a local charity.

He has been destroyed publically by the media in Toronto, and this stupid tweet took it to a whole new personal level.

I think it is good that he is doing it, especially considering the guys that sign those paycheques also own TSN.

Yes that's exactly what he is going to do with the money, go after "damages" because he lost his dignity. Toronto media has already stripped him of that long before this. I don't think the tweet should have ever made it onto to tsn but why bother with this kind of crap.

[albertGQ]

I don't get "The Final Solution" joke/tweet

[DJones]

Why would they be 'blacklisted'? GMs don't like players that don't like to be on TMZ?

Someones head is going to roll on this one. Probably some lower level guy but none the less. Makes a mockery of TSN to act like that.

Where did the rumor come from anyway? Any basis in reality?

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

Makes them look pretty petty going after a single tweeter. IMO TSN is the responsible party as they broadcast the tweet which would have been seen by maybe 10 people otherwise. Good luck getting cash Dion/Cuthbert/Lupul as TSN immedietly issued an apology. The question is: Does this legal action cause other NHL teams around the league to view Dion and Lupol as 'blacklisted'?

I think you over estimate the mitigating value of an apology from a media organization, if you or I, or say the original tweeter, says sorry quickly, then our relative inexperience will be taken into account, but TSN is supposed to both know better, have the resources and skills to prevent this and also will have caused far greater damage, sorry won't get them off the hook.

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

I don't get "The Final Solution" joke/tweet

Draisaitl is German. The Final Solution was the Holocaust.

[Buster]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Freedom of speech has to be regulated by the truth, you want to lie about someone that isn't speech it's libel, rumours ain't truth.

So the Flames should be able to sue Sureless for posting a trade rumour?

Either you have freedom of speech, or you don't.

Libel and defamation suits restrict our liberty.

You don't want to live in a country where people can tell you what you are and are not able to put on Twitter.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

I don't get "The Final Solution" joke/tweet

German born hockey player needed a nickname on draft day and this is what some doofus came up with on twitter. A term used by the Nazi's for the Jewish genocide. Utterly tasteless and made it to T.V. Yet, that is acceptable humor on the internet. I didn't like it as the kid had nothing to do with the past other than being born in Germany. It's just insulting on too many different levels.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Buster

So the Flames should be able to sue Sureless for posting a trade rumour?

Either you have freedom of speech, or you don't.

Libel and defamation suits restrict our liberty.

You don't want to live in a country where people can tell you what you are and are not able to put on Twitter.

There's a difference between a trade rumour and posting a fabricated story about somebody's personal life.

Please, just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.