[Trade] Glencross to Washington for a 2015 2nd and 2015 3rd round pick (WSH) (Archive)

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Sportsnet 960's audio of Glencross' comments today are horrible. Background noise is louder than Glencross' voice.

Personally I'm shocked a Sportsnet production has audio issues.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Where ru Chris O'Sullivan

Guys like Glencross don't cry without reason,

He's been relegated to 3rd line duty, but more importantly, 3rd line players around him. I'm sure he wouldn't speak if the top 6 were all elite players, but he likely believes he deserves another chance up there as they are cooling down. The same way he got bumped down when he didn't produce.

Hell have eyes if he winds up in Anaheim and starts potting Hat Tricks.

But as a big fan of Glencross, I do think a new team may be the best for him if he is feeling the same way.

Which wingers have cooled down in our top 6?

Hudler has been hot, Bouma is playing great, Jones is a PPG in his past 9, and he doesn't play center so can't replace Monahan or Backlund.

Gaudreau is really the only guy who has struggled 5v5 but even he is still putting up points on the PP and has great chemistry with Hudler.

No points in 10 games means he has to start producing on the line he is on before he gets moved up.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Who's cooling down that Glencross would replace?

Great minds. I was just posting that. Jones, Hudler, Gaudreau or Bouma? Glencross can't match any of them over the past 10-15 games. Jones is the closest but he's really picked things up.

Glencross forgets who he is sometimes. A decent 2nd liner and an awesome 3rd liner that can provide a little bit of everything.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Fire

Ha Ha, Glencross originally just had one team on his list!? Who does he think he is? I'm thinking Glencross is going to a have a rude awakening in the off-season when teams don't offer up big contracts for him.

I think you will get a rude awakening when he gets multiple offers

[terminator]

I've honestly that we have 2 2nd lines.... the first is the first but the 2nd and 3rd seem to be about the same in time and skill?

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Did the team inquire about Glencross? Yes - 50% No - 50%
If the team did inquire about Glencross, is it on his list? Yes - 20% (6/30) No - 80%

If the team didn't inquire, he doesn't get dealt.
If the team did inquire, but it's not on his list, he doesn't get dealt.
If the team did inquire, and it's on his list, what is that probability? 50% x 20% = 10%.

Again, that's just a very simple view, and doesn't account for the Flames contacting every team on his list or the fluidity of the situation.

i understand what you're saying but the likelihood of a trade is certainly over 50% with the way this situation's played out.
saying it won't because of the probability formula used above is a touch ridiculous.
In short, advanced stats suck again

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Trying to sort through the 2015 list of picks Tampa has two 1st rounders, zero in the 2nd round and two picks in each of the 3rd and 4th round. Could be a match, top team in the east with some picks to play with.

Two 3rd round picks would be an interesting return. The picks would be low and high in that round, being their own 3rd and Edmonton's.

Not enough in my opinion.

[Obsidian]

He was straight up asked if he wanted to stay with the Flames and nothing about his response screamed yes. He just said "well..uhh..it's not my descision"

He loves the city and being at home, but it's quite clear he doesn't want to be a cog in the wheel of this team, and would rather be handed a top 6 position somewhere instead of having to prove himself on a team where nothing's given.

[AC]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Personally I'm shocked a Sportsnet production has audio issues.

Remember earlier this year when they had a microphone on apparently in a kitchen somewhere and you could hear cutlery being sorted for legitimately 10-15 minutes straight?

Amateur hour.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Honestly, I'm surprised Glencross even gave a list. Even if nothing happens, this is good diligence by Treliving. And honestly, chances are low something will happen. If half the teams in the league have inquired about him and he'll accept a move to 6 (average of 5-7), a simple probability tree suggests there's a 10% chance of a deal. That's before things like asking price and offer price are considered.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Given how many people seem to know exactly what is going on inside the locker room, I am left to believe that half of CP is actually current Flames players.


Guy gets asked a direct question, gives an honest answer that is basically "I believe I can give more", and full-on confirmation bias spin takes hold.

I really don't see it that way. Maybe there are a few posters acting that way and calling him a whiner, but he is a polarizing player, and you will always see these sorts of posts about him.

To me, this is interesting news is because it is the first time it is realistic to contemplate Glencross waiving his NTC. That just gets the juices flowing on potential trade partners and returns. It isn't confirmation bias or irrational hatred.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by AC

Remember earlier this year when they had a microphone on apparently in a kitchen somewhere and you could hear cutlery being sorted for legitimately 10-15 minutes straight?

Amateur hour.

LOL!

I had forgotten about that.

What a ####show.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

Great minds. I was just posting that. Jones, Hudler, Gaudreau or Bouma? Glencross can't match any of them over the past 10-15 games. Jones is the closest but he's really picked things up.

Glencross forgets who he is sometimes. A decent 2nd liner and an awesome 3rd liner that can provide a little bit of everything.

That's exactly it. He thinks he is a skilled sniper instead of what made him successful. Being a energy guy that brings speed and an edge with a good wrister. He needs a reality check big time. I would rather have Wolf in his spot.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by handgroen

i understand what you're saying but the likelihood of a trade is certainly over 50% with the way this situation's played out.
saying it won't because of the probability formula used above is a touch ridiculous.
In short, advanced stats suck again

I'll take 6:1 odds on that bet. I get he doesn't get traded, you get he does.

[getoverit]

What I found interesting is he said it was a tough couple of weeks. I'm thinking this just didn't happen today. He's in play.

[Gord_Wappel]

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[Finger Cookin]

Can't embed youtube, hack status confirmed.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Deleted. Didn't read ahead and was saying the same thing as others.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Obsidian

He was straight up asked if he wanted to stay with the Flames and nothing about his response screamed yes. He just said "well..uhh..it's not my descision"

He loves the city and being at home, but it's quite clear he doesn't want to be a cog in the wheel of this team, and would rather be handed a top 6 position somewhere instead of having to prove himself on a team where nothing's given.

My guess is the opposite, actually, He wants to be a cog in the wheel of this team, but I think he knows the organization is intending to move on. Thus, it really isn't his decision.

[David Struch]

Flames may target a defensive prospect that was drafted during the past four years or so.