11-24-2014, 08:06 PM
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#1021
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy
And when many of them were confronted with multiple conflicting witness statements and scientific evidence based on three separate autopsies that were consistent with each other, they admitted that they didn't see the shooting, only saw parts of the shooting, only saw the aftermath of the shooting or were just repeating what they had heard on the streets.
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This sounds like the major problem with prosecuting this case. Some of the more damning Witness statements didn't pass the sniff test.
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11-24-2014, 08:06 PM
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#1022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy
And when many of them were confronted with multiple conflicting witness statements and scientific evidence based on three separate autopsies that were consistent with each other, they admitted that they didn't see the shooting, only saw parts of the shooting, only saw the aftermath of the shooting or were just repeating what they had heard on the streets.
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How do you know all that? I thought the Grand Jury was all secretive.
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11-24-2014, 08:07 PM
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#1023
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
How do you know all that? I thought the Grand Jury was all secretive.
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Literally paraphrasing what the DA said on live TV in the past 10 minutes. His office presented all evidence to the grand jury so he has knowledge of what evidence was gathered and available to the grand jury.
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11-24-2014, 08:07 PM
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#1024
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11-24-2014, 08:09 PM
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#1025
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Understanding and thinking the whole process was a sick ####ing joke aren't mutually exclusive.
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Well as long as you are informed about what evidence was presented to the grand jury and that they came to the wrong conclusion, thereby making it a joke...would you mind sharing with the rest of us?
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11-24-2014, 08:09 PM
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#1026
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I have been torn on this, but the one thing I took away from that annoucement was the emphasis that the grand jury has seen more evidence on this case than anyone else in the world- and they decided not to indict.
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11-24-2014, 08:10 PM
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#1027
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
How do you know all that? I thought the Grand Jury was all secretive.
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Who is on the jury, what their vote count is and such is all secretive....the evidence presented is public domain.
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11-24-2014, 08:11 PM
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#1028
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
This sounds like the major problem with prosecuting this case. Some of the more damning Witness statements didn't pass the sniff test.
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Ya. The D.A. said that there were several statements that were consistent with each other, stood up to scrutiny by investigators, did not change over time when revisited and were consistent with the 3 separate autopsies. Most of those statements came from black witnesses (should that matter - just repeating what the DA said).
Those statements that didn't pass the sniff test were widely inconsistent with scientific evidence, didn't hold up to scrutiny and changed significantly over time when revisited.
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11-24-2014, 08:11 PM
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#1029
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Originally Posted by PeteLFan
What a disgrace.
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what? that the cop wasn't hung for nothing?
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11-24-2014, 08:11 PM
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#1030
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy
It could have also been a preliminary hearing which would have come after charges and would have been decided by a single judge. Not sure that would have been better.
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You must not be watching the same livestream I am.
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11-24-2014, 08:11 PM
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#1031
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Originally Posted by DOOM
Which is complete BS given some of the witnesses statements.
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You mean all the "witnesses" who were outright lying just because Wilson was either a cop or white? Those witnesses?
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11-24-2014, 08:11 PM
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#1032
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flabbibulin
I have been torn on this, but the one thing I took away from that annoucement was the emphasis that the grand jury has seen more evidence on this case than anyone else in the world- and they decided not to indict.
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Not good enough for many on this board though....no sir.
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11-24-2014, 08:13 PM
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#1033
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Originally Posted by PIMking
what? that the cop wasn't hung for nothing?
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going to trial = being hung? 
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11-24-2014, 08:14 PM
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#1034
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
You mean all the "witnesses" who were outright lying just because Wilson was either a cop or white? Those witnesses?
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Oh, so they're liars because he was a white cop?
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11-24-2014, 08:14 PM
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#1035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flabbibulin
I have been torn on this, but the one thing I took away from that annoucement was the emphasis that the grand jury has seen more evidence on this case than anyone else in the world- and they decided not to indict.
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I got the same. They had everything the could get, and had nothing to move forward with, so had to let it go.
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11-24-2014, 08:15 PM
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#1036
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Originally Posted by Acey
You must not be watching the same livestream I am.
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Not sure. I'm watching via CTV.
The D.A. said, in response to a question about why his office did not just charge the police officer that the evidence was insufficient and is either reviewed by a grand jury before charges are laid or is subject to a preliminary hearing after charges are laid. Preliminary hearings are decided by a single judge (as far as I know in Missouri and the U.S. in general).
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11-24-2014, 08:15 PM
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#1037
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
You mean all the "witnesses" who were outright lying just because Wilson was either a cop or white? Those witnesses?
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When were all the witnesses proven to be liars?
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11-24-2014, 08:16 PM
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#1038
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Shaw's channel system of making you buy a $10 package to get all the news channels is dumb ... I want one or two, not 10.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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11-24-2014, 08:16 PM
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#1039
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Is that tear gas
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11-24-2014, 08:17 PM
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#1040
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DOOM
Oh, so they're liars because he was a white cop?
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There was likely lying by witnesses on either side of the truth. It's a pointless thing to argue, really. Wilson did testify... which is interesting... but the prosecutor's claim is that his testimony didn't hold much weight.
I suspect how much the jury considered Wilson's statements to BS will not be released into public domain.
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