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Old 10-13-2014, 07:02 PM   #2261
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As a note, The invite was specifically crafted for me in the situation I am in, so I doubt any 2 invites are the same. Of course, most of the content is likely reused, as it was a virtual novel, taking more than one PM to send.
Jeez, mine was 2 larger paragraphs and then 6 smaller two sentence ones. I thought I had a novel, that sounds ridiculously long.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:03 PM   #2262
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ECF, how long was your invite to the Eternals? Long?

Would be some proof that the Eternals and Guardians may not be coming from the same source. One of my speculations.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:06 PM   #2263
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Rathji there have been 4 people join the cults and multiple people turn down invites and we still know nothing about them, why do you think you joining will give us anymore info than we have now?
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:09 PM   #2264
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My invite to the guardians was 11 paragraphs. Mostly 2-3 sentences each. It was impressive how many words there were when nothing was really said. I think the invites are coming from two different people and each invite is tailored to that specific person.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:11 PM   #2265
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I do not entirely trust Starseed, and would still be quite happy to lynch him. However Timbo, you do seem to be going a little off kilter lately.

There has been so much back and forth this weekend, but not much real information, except Rathji's acceptance of the Eternals invite I suppose.

The more GGG posts, the more I believe you.

I do not want to lynch town again, but I am not at all sure that we have a great mafia candidate to lynch.

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Old 10-13-2014, 07:13 PM   #2266
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So over this last day period there has been a bunch of back and forth. Many arguments have been made, refuted, theories made, shot down to the point where I honestly have no idea for sure who is scum here, I haven't a clue really. I was certain on starseed, then not so much, now full in doubt...uggg.
We are getting close to where we have to vote somebody so on that note.
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The only vote I am comfortable making at this time because I see it as a no lose scenario. The guy has been useless since day 1, has not contributed nothing so even if he is town it isn't like we are losing any insight at all by losing him. I am not sure if he is scum or not but it doesn't really matter, his participation has sucked. All he does is lurk in the weeds, show up every blue moon and say something unhelpful and then zark off again. He has my vote.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:20 PM   #2267
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That's not a horrible idea Diss. I want to do some more reading from this weekend before I unvote and cast another vote though.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:25 PM   #2268
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Starseed had 8 votes with multiple people who hadn't voted for Starseed, like Formulate, who said they would be okay with the lynch:
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The only way I see of getting truly concrete proof would be a lynch.

I'm without desktop access for the duration of the long weekend, and will be without the required combination of internees connectivity, time and sobriety for the duration as well. I assume both will be the case for a decent number of posters.

I won't be bringing the starseed hammer yet, and while I can't ask for the game to be paused, it would be nice to get a chance to review everything starting Monday night.
I'm okay with the town considering everything and reconsidering their positions but this reeks of mafia intervention. They bought their time, let the town over-think and over-analyze things and now we wont get a Starseed reveal.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:25 PM   #2269
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Back home and gonna get started on reading (probably from the GGG reveal for context). I'll write down thoughts and questions as they pop into my head then share whatever hasn't already been touched on. Then hopefully some ideas on how to proceed.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:27 PM   #2270
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Back home and gonna get started on reading (probably from the GGG reveal for context). I'll write down thoughts and questions as they pop into my head then share whatever hasn't already been touched on. Then hopefully some ideas on how to proceed.
Sorry, don't know if I believe it's just a coincidence you show up right as the vote for Starseed fails.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:56 PM   #2271
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If the power is useless, which is very possible, what is the down side?
The downside is that it is a possibility that you get one vote against you to start the day. GP_Matt died wanting to know if the votes increase by one each day, which is possible. Regardless, the Mafia could just choose to not night kill townies who have that extra vote on them, making it easier to win later in the game.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:58 PM   #2272
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That's not a horrible idea Diss. I want to do some more reading from this weekend before I unvote and cast another vote though.
It is becoming a numbers game, so therefore it is a bad idea to not vote for your #1 mafia suspect.
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Old 10-13-2014, 08:03 PM   #2273
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Starseed had 8 votes with multiple people who hadn't voted for Starseed, like Formulate, who said they would be okay with the lynch:


I'm okay with the town considering everything and reconsidering their positions but this reeks of mafia intervention. They bought their time, let the town over-think and over-analyze things and now we wont get a Starseed reveal.
Wow. So thinking things through is anti-town? I think the more we talk, the more we posture, the more we discuss, the harder it is for the mafia to hide. The harder it is for you to prevent a Timbo lynch because he has a hard time defending himself, and if you outright come to his defence, you create a clear link between you two.

I cannot tell if the formulate post is you continuing to put distance between him and yourself...
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Old 10-13-2014, 08:10 PM   #2274
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It is becoming a numbers game, so therefore it is a bad idea to not vote for your #1 mafia suspect.
I don't have a #1 mafia suspect.
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Old 10-13-2014, 08:11 PM   #2275
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The downside is that it is a possibility that you get one vote against you to start the day. GP_Matt died wanting to know if the votes increase by one each day, which is possible. Regardless, the Mafia could just choose to not night kill townies who have that extra vote on them, making it easier to win later in the game.
That's the only downside? What about the fact that all the people joining cults could be unknowingly be causing us to lose the game? Do you really think the powers are free, no strings attached? Things that sound too good to be true usually are.

What did your mason partner think when you discussed joining the cult?
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Old 10-13-2014, 08:13 PM   #2276
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Me neither right now. Literally everyone I've thought was mafia has flipped town or is still in the game and convinced me enough to be not sure. I'm probably just going to vote with my best gut feeling, which is either formulate, girly or Timbo
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Old 10-13-2014, 08:13 PM   #2277
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So over this last day period there has been a bunch of back and forth. Many arguments have been made, refuted, theories made, shot down to the point where I honestly have no idea for sure who is scum here, I haven't a clue really. I was certain on starseed, then not so much, now full in doubt...uggg.
We are getting close to where we have to vote somebody so on that note.
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The only vote I am comfortable making at this time because I see it as a no lose scenario. The guy has been useless since day 1, has not contributed nothing so even if he is town it isn't like we are losing any insight at all by losing him. I am not sure if he is scum or not but it doesn't really matter, his participation has sucked. All he does is lurk in the weeds, show up every blue moon and say something unhelpful and then zark off again. He has my vote.
I can see how you've provided so much help and input into the game, with your most recent posts:
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Or it could be 4) You were lying.
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This is an interesting back and forth. Timbo, you have really come unglued.
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Why would you? I thought we established the given power does not work? Which side?
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Ok, fair enough, just asking.

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I get those too, my sympathies.

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For the record I have not gotten an invitation either.
I can go back further, but it doesn't get much better. You can come after Pika if you want, but for all you think you are worth to the game, you haven't found one piece of evidence that someone is scum. You can say I'm useless all you want, but for all the talk in this thread, only townies have been eliminated. All the work that has been done hasn't helped us at all, and if you lynch me, it's going to continue at the same rate. Of course this is Pika's first game, and it's too bad I haven't lived up to your lofty standards.

If you are voting for me because you don't like me, or how I play the game, that's a terrible strategy. If you truly think I'm mafia, then vote away. Once again, if you lynch Pika, you don't find out anything upon the town reveal, and no one's role is protected at night. You're right back to where you were since day 1, which is getting to a lynch and then no one having the guts to hit the hammer. All that's done is add more confusion, and really has only made people reveal their powers to stay. Pika sees this only benefiting the mafia.

I've had you on my radar since day one as well. I don't see the point in voting for you right now though, as I don't think anyone would follow me. Pika is coming at this game with a blank slate and learning to play as he goes along. Of course I wish I'd done a few things differently, but I can only move forward. You apparently can't let go. Chu is sad for you.
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Old 10-13-2014, 08:14 PM   #2278
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Starseed had 8 votes with multiple people who hadn't voted for Starseed, like Formulate, who said they would be okay with the lynch:


I'm okay with the town considering everything and reconsidering their positions but this reeks of mafia intervention. They bought their time, let the town over-think and over-analyze things and now we wont get a Starseed reveal.
I see it the other way,

Starseed reveals, everyone piles on quickly as sowing confusion in the town is an anti town thing to do. The only thing that stops the lynch from occurring quickly is the towns commitment to no quick lynches. The vote goes vast because you have both the mafia and townies contributing.

This as been typical of every townie we have lynched or voted for.

Bizaro hit 8 votes quickly flips town, GP Matt makes his mistake, immediately to lynch, rather dashing as an alternative immediately to lynch, ECF to seven votes quickly, hmmhmmcamo very quick to get lots of votes.

Now we look at Timbo and the vote has crawled along, some of this is no doubt do to the long weekend, but part of it seems intentional by mafia to start the Timbo train from leaving the station.
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Now we look at Timbo and the vote has crawled along, some of this is no doubt do to the long weekend, but part of it seems intentional by mafia to start the Timbo train from leaving the station.
Should have read

Seems intentional by mafia to stop the Timbo train from leaving.
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That's the only downside? What about the fact that all the people joining cults could be unknowingly be causing us to lose the game? Do you really think the powers are free, no strings attached? Things that sound too good to be true usually are.

What did your mason partner think when you discussed joining the cult?
They didn't trust that I was still town at first. Mazrim confirmed that my partner still knows that i am 100% town.

I didn't mean to list that as the only downside. For the record, I am not in favor of joining the eternals or guardians.

I don't have a reason to distrust the guardians, but I have received no contact from them or additional help.
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