YLYL Thread and other things...

[Eastern Girl]

Originally Posted by woob

Did you yell that at yourself in the mirror first? No? Oh, ok.

EDIT: I suggest everyone have avatars of their pets. It's awesome!

Hey, he never said who had to tell him to take it down. He left the door open.

And I was joking.

Pet avatars are cool. We've agreed on something. We've begun building the bridge of peace.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by ExiledFlamesFan

The funny thing is that easterngirl said the exact same thing as doctajones. She said she won't change hers until men take theirs down or until a moderator forces her to take it down.

There are probably hundreds of half-naked women in avatars and 3 men that I can think of.

Besides which, this is a hockey forum and her picture is of a hockey player.

[calgarygeologist]

The forum leaders have made their decision and have stated that they are working on new policies. Subsequent discussions have basically degraded to pissing matches between members. I'm always for an open exchange of ideas and reasonable discussion but at this point I think the forum would be best served by having the moderators shut down this incessant exchange and other similar discussions.

[photon]

Originally Posted by doctajones428

Yet I get toasted.

Yes you've made your point, you got what you expected.

I'll make another appeal to reason and maturity and ask everyone to please just either change your avatar if, in light of the conversation here, you feel your own avatar is not appropriate or just leave it alone until we decide what to ask people to do.

[woob]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Interesting. You guys felt it fine to jump all over EG, yet get all defensive when the same thing happens to you.

You (collectively) are a fine example of male privilege.

Especially since EG's side has articulated the issues far better than you have.

I'm pretty sure I didn't jump on EG, other than in my last post asking if she yelled her comments at herself first. I'd thank you not to associate me with "you guys".

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by doctajones428

Yet I get toasted.

See people? This is exactly why we need Men's Rights groups!

[DownInFlames]

I used to post on a forum (before it got taken down for being slightly illegal) that mandated that all avatars be something cute, and that's how I started using my current avatar. I'd be happy seeing more people choosing pets or cute cartoons here too.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by FireFly

There are probably hundreds of half-naked women in avatars and 3 men that I can think of.

Besides which, this is a hockey forum and her picture is of a hockey player.

Actually that's a very good point I wanted to bring up, but forgot. Takes a lot of wind out of the 'not fair' arguments.

Although, isn't a picture of TWO hockey players?

And hey! Me never figuring out how to put an avatar up has finally paid off!

[doctajones428]

I will take it down when all the abs/pecs avatars are taken down, should the mods decide to do so.

There, I made it less confrontational for others

[rubecube]

I also don't see anything overtly sexual or objectifying about the picture. It's like the cover of any MMA magazine.

[woob]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

See people? This is exactly why we need Men's Rights groups!

And we can also do without these types of comments, deliberate in mocking and with no intention but to prod those it's intended for. Remember the repeated comments about respect and consideration for others?

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by woob

And we can also do without these types of comments, deliberate in mocking and with no intention but to prod those it's intended for. Remember the repeated comments about respect and consideration for others?

No dude seriously. I don't want to live on a forum where the rules are exclusionary towards women's asses and in favor of rock hard abs.

[woob]

Originally Posted by Eastern Girl

Pet avatars are cool. We've agreed on something. We've begun building the bridge of peace.

Awesome. So why don't you and doctajones428 be the bringers of the new trend in avatars. Lay the first bricks of the bridge together.

I'll cue the dramatic music in the background.

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by Eastern Girl

Who was raked over the coals?

I've been called a hypocrite, self righteous, loud, whiny and a bunch of other fun things that basically equate me with some crazy rambling woman. I'm still here. I'm still trying to make my point, but I have to say, I am hitting my limits.



TAKE IT DOWN!

You've now been told.

You both have said the exact same thing and you're both coming across as childish. Stooping down to another person(s) level isn't the way to accomplish your goal. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[doctajones428]

Originally Posted by woob

Awesome. So why don't you and doctajones428 be the bringers of the new trend in avatars. Lay the first bricks of the bridge together.

I'll cue the dramatic music in the background.

My brick has been laid. The mortar is starting to dry, HURRY!

[woob]

YEAH! That's what I'm talkin about! C'mon EG!

[ExiledFlamesFan]

Paging peanut....

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Actually, you can choose to avoid them by changing one of your user settings and turn off avatars.

That would avoid the "suddenly sexy avatar on my screen when the boss walks by" but doesn't address the "clean up the board" part of the issue.

I too did not know this. However, the problem I have with this solution is that I tend to browse the forum not logged in. Not a huge deal but I also do like that users have avatars. So it's really an all or nothing solution.

My point is if these kinds of images are inappropriate in PGTs and we've decided they are no longer appropriate in dedicated threads then they really should have no purpose in people's avatars either.

I've yet to see someone offer a reason for why they should remain beyond, I can turn them off. And for the record I am not offended by anyone's avatar but as I said I browse CP at work and I know I am not the only one

[Flash Walken]

I think peanut has a hilarious avatar.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I think criticizing religion is okay to an extent, but when posters are advocating for genocide, maybe that's a step too far?

Genocide and religion have nothing to do with one another.

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

I would suggest that "turning off" avatars is the same argument as "you don't have to click on the YLYL thread". It puts the onus on the offended person, rather than the offending person.
It will be a very interesting few weeks and months while the mods figure out the new guidelines and how to enforce same. I would suggest it is much more consistent to ban the sexy avatars on objectification grounds, which I think is at least part of the grounds for banning YLYL (recognizing that the commentary in the thread had to do with it as well).

No. It puts the onus on the responsible person. Avatars mean you cant be on the site at all period or turn them all off without question.

Individual threads mean that you have to exercise personal responsibility and restraint.

Originally Posted by jammies

Nobody asked doctajones to take his avatar down, though, unlike EG. I don't know about you, but I wasn't on the edge of my seat wondering just when he was going to weigh in. And his entire tone was confrontational, using "TOLD TO", as if the jackbooted thugs and commissars of the KCP would be daunted by his refusal to go quietly to the gulag.

You basterd. You stole my KCP remark! I'll see you in hell.