Ya you're right...they should just open up on em all.
If you think they've been judicious and used common sense so far, well, I don't know what to tell you. This is not how I expect my police force to treat American citizens in their own city, in public areas, and on their own property.
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If you think they've been judicious and used common sense so far, well, I don't know what to tell you. This is not how I expect my police force to treat American citizens in their own city, in public areas, and on their own property.
Yeah....nope, never said that.
I do think with todays events and the addition of the NG, that things could escalate quickly from the protesting side...was merely saying that with the Governors wishes and Obamas words earlier this evening that it would result in a higher resistance of reaction by police.
And thus far it has...as they just arested one guy who appeared to be ready to launch some sort of molotov cocktail at them and then retreated.
This guy needs to teach a masterclass on being a policeman.
managed to get a resisting suspected criminal into the car without injuring her, without causing a riot, without giving away her identity or her suspected crime, answered questions courteously and most importantly he acted like a human and not a powertripping thug. The opportunity was there for him to lose his cool and hurt someone and then say he had to but he went out of his way not to.
They should test people before they become a policeman more thoroughly in the US with empathy and humility being 2 prime characteristics they require.
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There were peaceful demonstrations all weekend by the arch in downtown St. Louis, you have to wonder what is so different about these ferguson protests it seems like violence is increasing.
I think this whole situation makes me appreciate that Calgary has a generally very professional police department.
This. I can't think of a place I'd rather be when dealing with the police. I think Canadians in general know how to police much better than their neighbors.
Watching the VICE feed and it seems like the police are using a kettling technique. Basically telling everyone to disperse but not letting them go anywhere.
I think a policeman's job is the worst job on the entire planet.
No joke. These are men and women who deal with the dregs of society, not once in a while, or often, but every day of their lives.
They face hostility from every facet of the the people they are trying to protect and deal with. The emotional toll and effect it has on them is immense, and I feel that even when they are doing their jobs to the best of their abilities, they are being faulted and misunderstood everytime.
And this is coming from someone who watch his buddy get beaten to a pulp by 4 cops outside a bar, with little provocation. And I say that, only to try to show that I am no apologist.
There is no doubt in my mind that the rioting and violence of this protest is at least 50% the fault of the protestors.
That being said, what a messed up situation. I can see no way that this will not end in some kind of complete and utter disaster, probably on the part of the civilians.
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I think a policeman's job is the worst job on the entire planet.
No joke. These are men and women who deal with the dregs of society, not once in a while, or often, but every day of their lives.
They face hostility from every facet of the the people they are trying to protect and deal with. The emotional toll and effect it has on them is immense, and I feel that even when they are doing their jobs to the best of their abilities, they are being faulted and misunderstood everytime.
And this is coming from someone who watch his buddy get beaten to a pulp by 4 cops outside a bar, with little provocation. And I say that, only to try to show that I am no apologist.
There is no doubt in my mind that the rioting and violence of this protest is at least 50% the fault of the protestors.
That being said, what a messed up situation. I can see no way that this will not end in some kind of complete and utter disaster, probably on the part of the civilians.
I've worked with cops my whole professional career, and it's one job I would never recommend to my own kids or anyone else's.
Not only are you responsible for dealing with daily confrontation, uncertainty, and danger, but your actions are constantly second-guessed by lawyers, judges, the media, and the public. I don't think your average man on the street is capable of putting himself in the shoes of a police officer dealing with a dangerous or violent situation because such situations are just too removed from the average person's experience. Your average Joe also often seems to have the impression that police training is some kind of magic that makes officers omniscient and immune from fear, anger, or any other negative emotions.
Very often police are in a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation, and a lot of them end up jaded very early on in their careers (and the good ones manage to transcend this eventually).
There are times it's no doubt very rewarding work (particularly when you pension out at 25 years) but a lot of the stuff cops have to do, and the psychological impact it has on them, is pretty darned unpleasant.
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The thing that sucks is policeman have to spend so much of their time around actual criminals that it taints their view of humanity, it would have to, every day arresting people for doing stupid #### they could have just not done.
The experience of watching this whole Ferguson thing go down has completely soured me on the police. I am no longer going to give them the benefit of the doubt, nor assume they are good people in a tough job.
My assumption is going to be that they are armed sociopaths who deserve wary contempt until they demonstrate otherwise.
The experience of watching this whole Ferguson thing go down has completely soured me on the police. I am no longer going to give them the benefit of the doubt, nor assume they are good people in a tough job.
My assumption is going to be that they are armed sociopaths who deserve wary contempt until they demonstrate otherwise.
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Eye witness recollection is horendous at the best of times. Which is why we are seeing such variance in the stories being retold.
The only way we find out the truth is to allow the forensics guys/gals do their thing completely. This wont happen in a week...in fact it could take months.
Hopefully the truth becomes apparent and absolute and the appropriate actions are taken against the officer or exonerating him entirely. It's the only way this thing doesnt escalate even more.
Just read something relevant to this: Josie's account is not an eyewitness account. She claimed to be a friend of the family and was telling the story as heard from them, which is why it so closely matches Wilson's account.
