5-year-old, grandparents disappear from Calgary home

[IgiTang]

I almost dont want to know what the disgusting details are of this case and especially so if is anything true to what Drury18 read on Twitter... Thats just F***ed...

[Knut]

The kid just likely wanted to hang out with his grandparents overnight. Crazy speculation is not helpful at all.

[Mike Teavee]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Sure... Have your Grandparents come see the kid.

Without derailing the thread too much or implying anything im not intending on... I just dont see why you would want to put your child in that environment in the first place. ANYTHING could go wrong. Stuff scattered around the house, Grandparents trying to assess, stresses of sales made or not made... Anything... A murderer being that last thing anyone would think of. But there are many things that would make me think thats a bad idea in the very first place.

You're making too much of it. The kid was just having an overnight with his grandparents. I'm sure that he was able to cope with whatever condition the house was in.

Originally Posted by Barbecue

Not to mention if at least one of the grandparent knew they were mixed up with the wrong crowd and willing had Nathan over. Why put your grandson in that kind of danger?

I'm sure the grandparents weren't thinking someone was coming over that night to kill them.

smh at some of the comments ITT.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

I fail to see the big picture, often, so I'd like some advice.

Let's say someone organized a community search for the bodies. Random volunteers focusing on multiple rural roads in that area. Teams of 3-5 spread out on each side of multiple roads. Whatever...something like that. It would be planned out. Use Facebook and Twitter to spread the word, get maps and designate people/teams to roads, etc, etc.

With the police already having laid charges, they must be confident their case is somewhat court ready. And they're asking rural residents to check their own properties.

Would a community search like the one above do more harm than good? (ie: evidence)

I'm out of town until Thursday, but would really like to start working on something like this and plan it for Saturday IF there were no possible negative implications to the case. .

Good idea or should it be left as good intentions and not be done?

One big issue with this is that you can not organize and send people on a search on private land without getting appropriate permission from the land owner. You should be fine on public lands but not private lands.

[Hockeyguy15]

Seriously people, take a breath and stop. I get that people are looking for answers but come on, use your head.

1) That guy who said the bodies have been found probably had a brain fart, have = haven't.
2) What Drury read on twitter is likely verbal diarrhea. More often than not the simplest explaination is the right one.
3) Don't bother blaming the parents or grandparents, it makes you look stupid.

[Ne7en]

Originally Posted by YourMother

As per a family member of theirs, the bodies have been found. Unfortunately they're all deceased. I'm not comfortable giving any more info than that, sorry.

Would seem very odd, and a risk at tainting the general public's trust. Considering the police chief is asking the public to check their yards.

[Madman]

Originally Posted by Hesla

When ?

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Not two, just one person to be charged.
He stated that clearly

Originally Posted by nik-

Uh what? I was pretty sure he twice answered that there wasn't another person.

Originally Posted by Minnie

Madman, I missed that. Could you please link that comment? I would appreciate it. Or at least give me an idea of where in the press conference he mentioned that. Thank you.

8:25 ish of the video, he clearly states one other person will be charged later this afternoon.

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1912879

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by nik-

lets not go full ###### on the speculation guys

Can we please cut the use of the R word...

This whole situation is devastating. Nobody deserves that, and I definitely don't think the parents need to shoulder any of the blame for this either...

[JMN]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

i would imagine that nathan parents are absolutel racked with guilt over why did they let him sleep over that night........i know i would......

i'd assume that police are being tightlipped about everything to ensure that no mistakes are made and this guy gets off on a technicality.......

horrible ending to this story.......my thought go mout to the the family as they deal with this......

Hopefully they realize sooner rather than later that it wasn't their fault. It's great that their child had a close relationship with the grandparents. Very unfortunate and rare thing happened to their boy is all.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Yes - I wasn't clear.
I meant would it be safe to assume the police believe they were murdered in the home?

Well, the police already stated something violent happened in the home...

Based on the timing of everything, my personal speculation is that they found something at the acreage that caused them to return to the victims' house yesterday. Whatever they found led directly to the charges today. So my guess is they discovered evidence that ties Garland's property NE of Airdrie to the crime scene in Calgary, and definitively enough to allow the Crown to move ahead with murder charges.

[Lanny's Stache]

That poor mother made a decision that she has probably made many times before. It sounds like she was leaving late and let the kid stay for a sleep over. There have been many mentions about how close the kid was with his Grandma in particular. She did nothing wrong in leaving him with her. But you know that this one decision with stick with her forever. I feel awful for everyone involved, but the mother in particular. I really hopes she can have some perspective and see that she did nothing wrong in letting the kid spend more time with his Grand parents. The whole thing is just awful.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by Madman

8:25 ish of the video, he clearly states one other person will be charged later this afternoon.

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1912879

"Are you charging anyone else?"

"At this point in time, I can tell you we are charging one person later on this afternoon."

[Ne7en]

Originally Posted by Madman

8:25 ish of the video, he clearly states one other person will be charged later this afternoon.

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1912879

Dude, you need to re-listen.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Madman

8:25 ish of the video, he clearly states one other person will be charged later this afternoon.

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1912879

Not "one other", just one. Even though the world knows who was arrested, the police themselves could not name Garland because he hadn't been formally charged and arraigned at the time of the press conference.

[Madman]

Originally Posted by Minnie

"Are you charging anyone else?"

"At this point in time, I can tell you we are charging one person later on this afternoon."

So he hasn't been charged yet?

Guess I thought he was brought in and charged - hence my misunderstanding.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by nik-

Because an irrational act doesn't require mental illness.

Originally Posted by nik-

lets not go full ###### on the speculation guys

What was that you were saying nik?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

What was that you were saying nik?

What is wrong with those two quotes?

I made no definitive statement or speculation in the first post you quoted.

[Minnie]

The suspect/person of interest has been arrested. He has yet to appear before the court for the charges to be laid, which is why the statement was worded the way it was.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

What was that you were saying nik?

Weren't you just chastising someone else about derailing the thread in regards to the mental health angle?

[MillerTime GFG]

nm