5-year-old, grandparents disappear from Calgary home

[The Ditch]

Originally Posted by YourMother

As per a family member of theirs, the bodies have been found. Unfortunately they're all deceased. I'm not comfortable giving any more info than that, sorry.

So which family members did you hear this from?

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Parallex

This is awful awful news. I hope the police have a strong case and can find the remains without needing to cut a deal.

Just so senseless and wrong.

That's the scary part...it sounds like they really don't have a clue where the bodies are.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I would think they have to be confident they're going to find the bodies eventually, probably on the acreage. Getting a conviction without bodies or a murder weapon sounds tricky. Last thing anyone wants to see is a bungled prosecution here.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Parallex

This is awful awful news. I hope the police have a strong case and can find the remains without needing to cut a deal.

Just so senseless and wrong.

Here is the deal they should offer...Tell us where they are and you can have solitary for the rest of your life. Don't tell us where they are and you can take your chances in the general population.

[bubbsy]

ugh, thoughts & prayers to the family.

What a sickening story. Really hope justice is served.

[Otto-matic]

Calgary Sun‏@calgarysun8 mins
Family has confirmed to the Sun that Garland was the person arrested by cops.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

Relax...I realize mental health has a broad spectrum. There is no ignorance intended there. Let's not derail this thread, just let it go if you didn't like the comment.

Absolutely devastating for the family, really hope the bodies are found soon.

Ignorance is almost always never intended. Anyways, I'm not going to derail the thread but it's something I would suggest you actually do a little research on before stigmatizing an already marginalized subset of the population.

[MillerTime GFG]

K just shoot me a PM if you want to talk about it. You already have derailed this thread.

[burn_this_city]

I sort of figured when they started searching the fields and marshes this wasn't a rescue operation. Really sad case, the parents will second guess dropping the kid off for the night forever.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Here is the deal they should offer...Tell us where they are and you can have solitary for the rest of your life. Don't tell us where they are and you can take your chances in the general population.

No, I stand by my first statement... I'd rather they find the bodies without that deal and thus get to send him to general population.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

1st Degree on the Grandparents
2nd Degree on Nathan

Originally Posted by Madman

I can't believe that question was even asked.

Everyone knew that was implied, but it is a legitimate question the press should ask before they start write ups of the story with their facts wrong.


Sounds like it played out exactly like we all were hoping it didn't. Disgruntled business partner/investor came for revenge. Question is what went so wrong that this semi-related individual would stoop to this.

[IgiTang]

I can only imagine how the parents of poor Nathan feel at this moment... Leaving their child with his Grandparents for a sleep over..

What im curious to know is, if the grandparents had just finished an "estate sale" trying to sell off their possessions, what is a child, who isnt theirs, doing staying over for the night or being there in the first place?

Im not putting blame on anyone... Im just trying to imagine myself in that situation before the crime took place.

Your parents are hitting rock bottom, they are selling all their stuff, you know of some pretty hard times for them and you drop your kid off to them the night of the estate sale... What would go through my mind thinking this was a good idea in the first place?...

None the less, its a terrible tragedy. Its a damn shame what happened to that young man. RIP Nathan. You are the one in all of this who was truly innnocent.

[oilyfan]

Originally Posted by YourMother

As per a family member of theirs, the bodies have been found. Unfortunately they're all deceased. I'm not comfortable giving any more info than that, sorry.

I would suggest this is a ban worthy post now...

[JonDuke]

I fail to see the big picture, often, so I'd like some advice.

Let's say someone organized a community search for the bodies. Random volunteers focusing on multiple rural roads in that area. Teams of 3-5 spread out on each side of multiple roads. Whatever...something like that. It would be planned out. Use Facebook and Twitter to spread the word, get maps and designate people/teams to roads, etc, etc.

With the police already having laid charges, they must be confident their case is somewhat court ready. And they're asking rural residents to check their own properties.

Would a community search like the one above do more harm than good? (ie: evidence)

I'm out of town until Thursday, but would really like to start working on something like this and plan it for Saturday IF there were no possible negative implications to the case. .

Good idea or should it be left as good intentions and not be done?

[Ne7en]

Originally Posted by YourMother

As per a family member of theirs, the bodies have been found. Unfortunately they're all deceased. I'm not comfortable giving any more info than that, sorry.

huh??

Originally Posted by united

Calgary Herald ‏@calgaryherald
Amber Alert no longer in effect, but multiple sources tell us Nathan and his grandparents, Alvin and Kathryn Liknes, have not been found

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

I can only imagine how the parents of poor Nathan feel at this moment... Leaving their child with his Grandparents for a sleep over..

What im curious to know is, if the grandparents had just finished an "estate sale" trying to sell off their possessions, what is a child, who isnt theirs, doing staying over for the night or being there in the first place?

Im not putting blame on anyone... Im just trying to imagine myself in that situation before the crime took place.

Your parents are hitting rock bottom, they are selling all their stuff, you know of some pretty hard times for them and you drop your kid off to them the night of the estate sale... What would go through my mind thinking this was a good idea in the first place?...

None the less, its a terrible tragedy. Its a damn shame what happened to that young man. RIP Nathan. You are the one in all of this who was truly innnocent.

I believe they were moving to Edmonton/Mexico? If that was the case then why wouldn't you want your kid to see Grandma and Grandpa, since visits could be few and far between.

[Barbecue]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

I can only imagine how the parents of poor Nathan feel at this moment... Leaving their child with his Grandparents for a sleep over..

What im curious to know is, if the grandparents had just finished an "estate sale" trying to sell off their possessions, what is a child, who isnt theirs, doing staying over for the night or being there in the first place?

Im not putting blame on anyone... Im just trying to imagine myself in that situation before the crime took place.

Your parents are hitting rock bottom, they are selling all their stuff, you know of some pretty hard times for them and you drop your kid off to them the night of the estate sale... What would go through my mind thinking this was a good idea in the first place?...

None the less, its a terrible tragedy. Its a damn shame what happened to that young man. RIP Nathan. You are the one in all of this who was truly innnocent.

Not to mention if at least one of the grandparent knew they were mixed up with the wrong crowd and willing had Nathan over. Why put your grandson in that kind of danger?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

I fail to see the big picture, often, so I'd like some advice.

Let's say someone organized a community search for the bodies. Random volunteers focusing on multiple rural roads in that area. Teams of 3-5 spread out on each side of multiple roads. Whatever...something like that. It would be planned out. Use Facebook and Twitter to spread the word, get maps and designate people/teams to roads, etc, etc.

With the police already having laid charges, they must be confident their case is somewhat court ready. And they're asking rural residents to check their own properties.

Would a community search like the one above do more harm than good? (ie: evidence)

I'm out of town until Thursday, but would really like to start working on something like this and plan it for Saturday IF there were no possible negative implications to the case. .

Good idea or should it be left as good intentions and not be done?

Unless the police ask for volunteers stay out of it, you don't have a knowledge of forensic requirements and chances are you'd just get in the way. If the police want help they'll ask for it and train the volunteers.

[Ne7en]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

I fail to see the big picture, often, so I'd like some advice.

Let's say someone organized a community search for the bodies. Random volunteers focusing on multiple rural roads in that area. Teams of 3-5 spread out on each side of multiple roads. Whatever...something like that. It would be planned out. Use Facebook and Twitter to spread the word, get maps and designate people/teams to roads, etc, etc.

With the police already having laid charges, they must be confident their case is somewhat court ready. And they're asking rural residents to check their own properties.

Would a community search like the one above do more harm than good? (ie: evidence)

I'm out of town until Thursday, but would really like to start working on something like this and plan it for Saturday IF there were no possible negative implications to the case. .

Good idea or should it be left as good intentions and not be done?

I like this idea, and think many others would like to help do something. You'd think with the police asking owners the check their properties that it would be alright, but hard to assume without contacting the authorities.

[EldrickOnIce]

If the murder charges are the only ones laid (no kidnapping/forceable confinement) is it fair to assume that the evidence of the murders all comes from the Liknes home?