Have you cold approached a girl?

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yes because life should be serious all day everyday.:roll eyes:

I'm just waiting for the day in a locker room where the boys are being boys that a guy like you pipes up and berates them all for being d-bags. Oh wait that never happens in real life only by internet keyboard warriors. Honestly guys I get that the internet is the great equalizer for some of you but it just doesn't represent real world face to face interaction.

Well considering I'm a woman, I'm pretty unlikely to end up spending much time in a men's lockerroom. Maybe, just maybe, a woman has some insight into the BS that women have to deal with on a daily basis due to misogyny.

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

Ah, I see how that can come across. Ya, a bit dickish. To be honest I just finished trying to have a conversation with a few angry feminists who believed all men hate women. I'm a bit strung as it was frustrating as hell. Wasn't actually an attack at her appearance or relationship status at all.

No one is saying that all men hate women. But regardless of that--all women deal with misogyny in one way or another. I've been really lucky to avoid any sexual assault and overt harassment. But I'm a manager at my place of business--as a 30 year old woman--and I deal with constant, virulent disrespect from a 67 year old man because he's a good old boy who refuses to imagine that I have anything to offer because I'm of the fairer sex.

As for the rest: I'm a colorist/hair stylist. I wear makeup and jewelry and dresses and heels. And I just had a date last night, as a matter of fact. Not every feminist fits into a simple stereotype.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yes because life should be serious all day everyday.:roll eyes:

I'm just waiting for the day in a locker room where the boys are being boys that a guy like you pipes up and berates them all for being d-bags. Oh wait that never happens in real life only by internet keyboard warriors. Honestly guys I get that the internet is the great equalizer for some of you but it just doesn't represent real world face to face interaction.

That's really long-winded way of saying "Say it to my face, bro!"

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Well considering I'm a woman, I'm pretty unlikely to end up spending much time in a men's lockerroom. Maybe, just maybe, a woman has some insight into the BS that women have to deal with on a daily basis due to misogyny.

Well that's the thing about keeping it in a locker room and not in front of the women. Women don't have to deal with it. Honestly this was a pretty lighthearted discussion until about page 6 when rubecube insinuated we were all 40 year old losers and hijacked this thread with his self-righteous act.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well that's the thing about keeping it in a locker room and not in front of the women. Women don't have to deal with it. Honestly this was a pretty lighthearted discussion until about page 6 when rubecube insinuated we were all 40 year old losers and hijacked this thread with his self-righteous act.

Is your argument actually that misogyny is cool, just don't whip it out in front of the ladies?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Is your argument actually that misogyny is cool, just don't whip it out in front of the ladies?

When did I say it's cool to hate on women?

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

No one is saying that all men hate women. But regardless of that--all women deal with misogyny in one way or another. I've been really lucky to avoid any sexual assault and overt harassment. But I'm a manager at my place of business--as a 30 year old woman--and I deal with constant, virulent disrespect from a 67 year old man because he's a good old boy who refuses to imagine that I have anything to offer because I'm of the fairer sex.

The group I tied to foolishly reason with sure did believe it. That conversation was bleeding over into this forum which I shouldn't have done. Everyone has had difficulties in their life and every day life. Talk to most men with kids about misandry after divorce and she how they're discriminated against. It's how you handle it in life that defines us.

There is nothing wrong with approaching a woman and asking for her number. If she says no then walk away. Most women, and you may not be one of them, like confident men who can ask this simple question. I have no problems approaching women, being funny or cute and then asking for her number. It's closing the sale, she bought me as much as I bought her, unless it's a wrong number which has happened.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

Nope.

Have you met a rugby woman?

What is your point? "Have you met a rugby woman?" And then you post a picture of women in the scrum wearing mouth guards. I'd just like you to spell it out for me - what's the message you're trying to convey?

[PsYcNeT]

I just want everyone to know that this thread has been a delight.

And by delight I mean everyone should take a hot shower.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well yes it is because there's nothing I have said that isn't appropriate. I don't think you realize that you can't impose your will on me. One minute you are saying that people that watch self help videos on dating should just die and next minute you are telling me what isn't appropriate? Look in the mirror.

Actually I said they should accept they will "die alone"

I didn't wish death on them, but you were probably too busy being alpha and putting shame to all those boys with the realness of your manhood to bother reading.

It's cool bro, alpha on.

Originally Posted by 2ArmBands

I don't know what it is about your posts but they generally make me want to firmly grab my desk and vigorously bash my head into it relentlessly. I feel like it would just be less painful then watching you try to make everyone feel inferior to you.

I welcome your offer. Please make it so.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well that's the thing about keeping it in a locker room and not in front of the women. Women don't have to deal with it. Honestly this was a pretty lighthearted discussion until about page 6 when rubecube insinuated we were all 40 year old losers and hijacked this thread with his self-righteous act.

What is it, exactly, that you're keeping in the locker room, away from our delicate and easily enraged feminist ears?

[nik-]

Can someone point me to where this started going south? I'm not quite sure what happened here.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by strombad

Actually I said they should accept they will "die alone"

I didn't wish death on them, but you were probably too busy being alpha and putting shame to all those boys with the realness of your manhood to bother reading.

It's cool bro, alpha on.




I welcome your offer. Please make it so.

What's your excuse for this gem?

Originally Posted by strombad

Anytime you have to watch a video about approaching girls, you're already too much of a loser to make it worth bothering.

Seriously dude give it up.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Peanut

What is it, exactly, that you're keeping in the locker room, away from our delicate and easily enraged feminist ears?

Guy talk. You know the same as what a bunch of women talk about in a group setting. Let's not pretend that you guys don't have discussions about men that aren't flattering to us.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

When did I say it's cool to hate on women?

Alright, maybe I'm just confused by your definition of locker room talk. I played enough sports growing up that I'm fairly familiar with most of it. I don't really have a problem with guys busting each other's balls or talking about the girls they've slept with, etc. However, stuff like slut-shaming, body image crap, and rape jokes are definitely misogynist in nature.

Anyways, I had one or two posts in mind when I originally made the lame comment and some people decided I was making an indictment on the entire thread, which really wasn't the case, and it snowballed from there.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Guy talk. You know the same as what a bunch of women talk about in a group setting.

You said this thread was "boys being boys" "like in the locker room". Sorry but this thread is full of misogyny. And locker room or not, doesn't make it ok to dehumanize and objectify women just because they aren't within earshot. So I'm just clarifying what exactly it is you're trying to justify with the whole "boys being boys" BS.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Alright, maybe I'm just confused by your definition of locker room talk. I played enough sports growing up that I'm fairly familiar with most of it. I don't really have a problem with guys busting each other's balls or talking about the girls they've slept with, etc. However, stuff like slut-shaming, body image crap, and rape jokes are definitely misogynist in nature.

Anyways, I had one or two posts in mind when I originally made the lame comment and some people decided I was making an indictment on the entire thread, which really wasn't the case, and it snowballed from there.

Rape jokes? What the hell is wrong with you. I haven't been in any groups that thought that was remotely funny. Honestly do people actually joke about that stuff?

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Rape jokes? What the hell is wrong with you. I haven't been in any groups that thought that was remotely funny. Honestly do people actually joke about that stuff?

Oh give it a rest. Just look up the entire rape joke THREAD on this very forum.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

The group I tied to foolishly reason with sure did believe it. That conversation was bleeding over into this forum which I shouldn't have done. Everyone has had difficulties in their life and every day life. Talk to most men with kids about misandry after divorce and she how they're discriminated against. It's how you handle it in life that defines us.

I don't want to get into this much, but the MRA folks who blame misandry for the the way they're treated in divorce proceedings need to do a better job at realizing just how much our social constructions of masculinity have put them in the positions they are.

[Flames_Gimp]

I usually just run into their ankles and they just fall into my lap

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Peanut

You said this thread was "boys being boys" "like in the locker room". Sorry but this thread is full of misogyny. And locker room or not, doesn't make it ok to dehumanized and objectify women just because they aren't within earshot. So I'm just clarifying what exactly it is you're trying to justify with the whole "boys being boys" BS.

I guess we can agree to disagree as I really haven't seen many spiteful posts that I would consider hateful towards the opposite sex. You know it's okay that we don't share the same viewpoint right? Boys being boys doesn't include rape talk or talking about women like they are all whores. Maybe I have been fortunate to not hang in groups of men that hate women and treat rape like it's fine because I just don't see where this talk is coming from.