[News] Flames finish 4th last in the NHL for the 2013-2014 season

[stemit14]

If the oilers take draisaitl, that will mean the flames will end up getting one of the 3 guys that have been listed as the consensus number at some point this year.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Scoutski

I only ran it 3 times and the Flames won twice with Buffalo winning the other time.

I think it's hilarious that the Oilers put this on their website... Of course it would be great if the Flames won, but I don't think they should celebrate it and hype it up before it happens.

It's almost as if a guy with a funny black fur hat who works for the oil but is a closet Flames fan has tinkered with the randomizer to skew the odds in favour of the Flames in order to cause brain damage to oilers fans.

[sun]

Originally Posted by Burke Salad

A lot of Oilers fans seem to think MacTavish is in love with Draisatl.

Has he had a dream about him yet?

[dying4acup]

To be clear, I am in favor of moving Sven in a package for Floridas pick, but NOT in a package that includes the flames pick.

I believe this is a possibility, in a week draft year, because Florida likely has new owners (again) and 3-4years of Luongo to do something. Therefor I believe Florida would be willing to move their #1 pick for young assets ready to step into the line up next season.

If we are exploring the idea of moving up 2-3 spots for Floridas pick, then I would prefer the Flames use other picks to do this and not young players. AGAIN, I don't think Florida is interested in more picks or other picks, I think they want young, NHL-ready players to compete sooner rather than later.

[Hackey]

I think it's wishful thinking that one of the top 3 falls to 4 but I'm really hoping it happens if we don't win the lottery.

[Dagger]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

To be clear, I am in favor of moving Sven in a package for Floridas pick, but NOT in a package that includes the flames pick.

I believe this is a possibility, in a week draft year, because Florida likely has new owners (again) and 3-4years of Luongo to do something. Therefor I believe Florida would be willing to move their #1 pick for young assets ready to step into the line up next season.

If we are exploring the idea of moving up 2-3 spots for Floridas pick, then I would prefer the Flames use other picks to do this and not young players. AGAIN, I don't think Florida is interested in more picks or other picks, I think they want young, NHL-ready players to compete sooner rather than later.

Who do you pair with Sven that gets us that pick? The only ones they'd feasibly be interested in are Brodie, Gio, Gaudreau and Mony if they want NHL ready guys. It's hard to see Burke parting with any of them to move up 2 or 3 spots.

It's possible they fall in love with Dal Colle considering the glut of centres they have(and depending where they see Huberdeau playing) which would be ideal for us in a pick swapping scenario.

[AcGold]

I'd be happy with Reinhart, ok with Bennett but Ekblad is just the obvious choice to me. I might be overvaluing him but I'd trade a lot to get him asides from Johnny, Monahan, Giordano or Brodie. Or is that the consensus and everyone thinks we won't get him?

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Or is that the consensus and everyone thinks we won't get him?

Eh, you never know. I mean if "consensus" #1 Seth Jones can go actual at #4 then "maybe" #1 Aaron Ekblad can go at #4. Although if anyone with a head screwed on correctly works up in Edmonton he won't make it past #3... So yeah I think there is a chance we could get him without having to move up.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt

BUF 1 - Bennett
FLA 2 - Ekblad
EDM 3 - Reinhart
CGY 4 - Ritchie
NYI 5 - Draisatl
CAR 6 - Dal Colle
VAN 7 - Virtanen

Thats what I see happening

You just made me a Crumpy Gunt.

[Rick M.]

Trade down if you want Ritchie but I don't think it's a good idea if you have the 4th or 5th pick.

[Machiavelli]

31% of us correctly predicted this finish:

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=128962

[Crumpy-Gunt]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

You just made me a Crumpy Gunt.

I'm sure thats because you are an expert on scouting and have evaluated Ritchie to be a reach at 5 and not based off ISS/stats. Thanks for the insight. I would now also be even more of a Crumpy Gunt if we took him there.






















Nvm - actually Burke mentioned him 4th after Reinhart, Bennett and Draisatl when asked about the drafts forwards and I've watched the Petes plenty enough in the last few years to know he is every bit as promising a prospect as what is likely to be left at pick no.4

I will be revisiting a few of these threads if we draft Ritchie.

[Crumpy-Gunt]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

Trade down if you want Ritchie but I don't think it's a good idea if you have the 4th or 5th pick.

Why? Because you know Dal Colle and Draisatl / Perlini / Virtanen are better picks, better players with a higher ceiling or...ISS?

[nik-]

Jesus, you're quickly approaching most annoying poster level.

[Crumpy-Gunt]

OH NO. You dont share my opinions on CP or are annoyed by my constant posts. My social life is going to crap. What will I ever do?

Stick to sharing your opinions and let me worry about how annoying I am.

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by Dagger

Who do you pair with Sven that gets us that pick? The only ones they'd feasibly be interested in are Brodie, Gio, Gaudreau and Mony if they want NHL ready guys. It's hard to see Burke parting with any of them to move up 2 or 3 spots.

Firstly, I'd be interested in acquiring an ADDITIONAL pick, not moving up 2-3 spots. If it was just a matter of moving up 2-3 spots, Sven is overpayment IMO.

Secondly, in acquiring an additional pick from Florida specifically, Sven would be a centerpiece, along with 1 (or possibly 2) of Sieloff, Wotherspoon, max Reinhart, a 2nd round pick, or klimchuck.

Leaving this draft with Ekblad and Reinhart/Bennett would be a major coup.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

It's almost as if a guy with a funny black fur hat who works for the oil but is a closet Flames fan has tinkered with the randomizer to skew the odds in favour of the Flames in order to cause brain damage to oilers fans.

One could (and I do, frequently) argue that being an Oiler fan is a sure sign of brain damage. Also (cause this meme should never die) the Grease are No Good™.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt

Why? Because you know Dal Colle and Draisatl / Perlini / Virtanen are better picks, better players with a higher ceiling or...ISS?

No, it's because I think Ritchie will be picked later than the top 5 picks, hence you might as well trade down if he's your man.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

Firstly, I'd be interested in acquiring an ADDITIONAL pick, not moving up 2-3 spots. If it was just a matter of moving up 2-3 spots, Sven is overpayment IMO.

Secondly, in acquiring an additional pick from Florida specifically, Sven would be a centerpiece, along with 1 (or possibly 2) of Sieloff, Wotherspoon, max Reinhart, a 2nd round pick, or klimchuck.

Leaving this draft with Ekblad and Reinhart/Bennett would be a major coup.

And virtually impossible. No one wants our spare parts for a top 3 pick

[djsFlames]

You're severely overrating Ritchie if you'd take him before Dal Colle and Draisaitl.

That is as much as I can say, even putting the weight issue aside (which does scare the crap out of me). He's in the same tier as Virtanen and Perlini, but most certainly NOT a top 5 prospect this year. And that's pretty much a consensus among the major scouting sources. Ritchie was in the top 5 last summer, but hasn't been since, because better player have clearly emerged above him.

If you're gonna draft him, you trade down.