03-21-2014, 03:23 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
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these are sweet to read.
I think this one:
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Winston Wolf: I would definitely take Hedberg over Kiprusoff. Kiprusoff was horrible last year when Nabokov held out. I saw a lot of their games and I honestly didn't see anything out of Kiprusoff to make me think he could ever be a starting goaltender. On the other hand, Toskala was very good, if I were Calgary I wouldn't have settled on Kiprusoff.
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it is fun to go back and resurrect these threads to see the silly things people wrote or to see how wrong most of us probably were.
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03-21-2014, 03:25 PM
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#122
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It's so smug to do that though, I don't think anyone expected Kipper to be what he was. Having a decade of hindsight to mock people is a pretty dick move.
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03-21-2014, 03:30 PM
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#123
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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I particularly like this one.
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Don't get your hopes up, guys. He's not our saviour in Flaming armour.
Another patch to fix the leak, rather than replacing the whole pipe.
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03-21-2014, 03:36 PM
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#124
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
I particularly like this one.
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Don't get your hopes up, guys. He's not our saviour in Flaming armour.
Another patch to fix the leak, rather than replacing the whole pipe.
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Nice prediction Ozy_Flame! Hope you've learned to not judge so quickly in the 10 years since!
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03-21-2014, 03:58 PM
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#125
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Self-Suspension
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if hindsight meant anything we'd have St. Louis right now
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03-21-2014, 04:10 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Come into this thread and see comparisons to Kipper? Get real! Go back and look at what Shark fans thought of Kipper before he was ever dealt, they thought he would be a world class goalie. Who here saw anything to say Berra has potential to be a world class goalie? Berra has zero consistancy and he won't learn it at this stage either. He will be an adequate backup that can make some brilliant saves but will always let in those back breaking stinkers too. Glad he went to the Avs.
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03-21-2014, 04:36 PM
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#127
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by sun
Wow, those are some ugly numbers. Wonder what CP's reaction was to that trade.
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it was given that it'd be a 2nd. Back then we traded away all of our 2nd rounders.
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03-21-2014, 04:41 PM
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#128
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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He doesn't need to be the next Kipper to be worth a 2nd round pick. The value of a 2nd round pick, especially a late one, is being exaggerated by a few people (Kiprusoff should not be looked at as the benchmark here).
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03-21-2014, 04:56 PM
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#129
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by nik-
It's so smug to do that though, I don't think anyone expected Kipper to be what he was. Having a decade of hindsight to mock people is a pretty dick move.
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Actually, it's more smug to state opinions as facts, which so many people do nowadays.
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03-21-2014, 05:02 PM
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#130
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Truculent!
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I have to laugh at people comparing Kipper to Berra.
Where did this idea that Berra had success in other leagues come from? He was borderline terrible in the Swiss A league. He waas good in a short stint in the AHL and garbage in the NHL.
He just isn't very good. He is Henrik Karlsson 2.0, except Karlsson only got us a 7th, which is what a sane GM should have paid for Berra.
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03-21-2014, 05:19 PM
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#131
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
I have to laugh at people comparing Kipper to Berra.
Where did this idea that Berra had success in other leagues come from? He was borderline terrible in the Swiss A league. He waas good in a short stint in the AHL and garbage in the NHL.
He just isn't very good. He is Henrik Karlsson 2.0, except Karlsson only got us a 7th, which is what a sane GM should have paid for Berra.
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Hartley said he was the kind of goalie that would lug bad swiss teams into the playoffs on his back.
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03-21-2014, 06:10 PM
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#132
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The second rounder we gave up for Kipper was conditional. Don't remember the conditions but if he struggled, it would've been a 3rd rounder.
There are no conditions on the pick we received from the Avs. So when/if he sucks, we still get their 2nd rounder
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03-21-2014, 06:46 PM
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#133
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
I have to laugh at people comparing Kipper to Berra.
Where did this idea that Berra had success in other leagues come from? He was borderline terrible in the Swiss A league. He waas good in a short stint in the AHL and garbage in the NHL.
He just isn't very good. He is Henrik Karlsson 2.0, except Karlsson only got us a 7th, which is what a sane GM should have paid for Berra.
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Reading comprehension is a nice thing to have.
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03-21-2014, 06:59 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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This quote is crazy!
"Before this season, Vancouver offered a second-rounder for Kiprusoff before using it to acquire Johan Hedberg from Pittsburgh."
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03-22-2014, 04:37 PM
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#135
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Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing
This quote is crazy!
"Before this season, Vancouver offered a second-rounder for Kiprusoff before using it to acquire Johan Hedberg from Pittsburgh."
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My favorite as well  Funny how things work out sometimes -- although I don't know if Kipper would have been as successful in Vancouver; Marcoux deserves some credit in helping Kipper reach his potential.
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03-22-2014, 04:54 PM
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#136
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Not cheering for losses
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Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
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Some great stuff in here. Thanks for the links. Much more level-headed than I would have thought.
Can you imagine Kipper as a canuck... Bone chilling.
Nice quote from this Sharks fan:
"You guys got a gem in Kipper. Of the Sharks 3 goalies this year, I think Mikka has the best stuff. I figured that Calgary would be his destination and I expect him to show the league how good of a goalie he really is. I know Ill be checkin the Flames boxscores more often."
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03-24-2014, 01:41 AM
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#137
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Cole436
22 GP
5-14
3.25 GAA
.879 SV%
2002-03 stats for Miikka Kiprusoff.
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Not really a direct comparison. Kiprusoff started playing in NA when he was 23, was playing in his third partial NHL season, and had already finished a couple of very successful years in the AHL. I suppose Berra could turn out to be a top goalie, but I wouldn't count on it. Is he on track to be a NHL starting goalie? In the end, it is really too hard to say one way or the other.
Last edited by Textcritic; 03-24-2014 at 01:44 AM.
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03-24-2014, 01:53 PM
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#138
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Self-Retired
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Originally Posted by AcGold
if hindsight meant anything we'd have St. Louis right now
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Then we would also have another cup and still have Jarome..
Hindsight is stupid unless it refers to life lessons.
In the world of sports, it has no place.
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03-24-2014, 02:07 PM
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#139
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Originally Posted by tvp2003
My favorite as well Funny how things work out sometimes -- although I don't know if Kipper would have been as successful in Vancouver; Marcoux deserves some credit in helping Kipper reach his potential. |
I seem to recall Marcoux arriving after Kipper. Regardless I dont think he could have contributed much to Kipper's early success, the guy was on fire as soon as he put on the Flaming C.
I think a big part of Kipper's success can be attributed to his own skill and Sutter's system. Turek was having a good season too that year and everyone can see how the Kings are now.
You put a great goalie with Sutter's system and you will be one of the best defensive teams in the league.
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04-11-2014, 11:07 PM
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#140
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Scoring Winger
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Berra not having a great start in Colorado, pulled against the Sharks after letting in 2 goals in 5 shots.
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