Malaysia Jet missing-Officials conclude crash in Indian ocean/all lives presumed lost

[jeffman]

Originally Posted by Wormius

1992 called and they want their hair-dos back.

I think those are hats

[cKy]

Originally Posted by jeffman

I think those are hats

Hats made of hair?

[Travis Munroe]

I had to come here right away when a facebook post popped up about finding the jet in the ocean floating around with all passengers alive. Clicked it and it was one of those sign up first/we will post BS to get your contact info pages.

[jeffman]

Originally Posted by cKy

Hats made of hair?

I mean the other pic

[Mango]

Alex Stone @astoneabcnews
#BREAKING US officials tell @ABC 2 communication systems on #MH370 were shut down separately. Expert says indicates possible deliberate act


For our aviation experts, are they both located in the cockpit?

[JonDuke]

Today has been extremely slow as far as "news" goes, but that's probably a good thing seeing as how we aren't being fed information that's being retracted within hours and then reinstated again in a few hours.

With the search now presumably shifted to the Indian Ocean, I feel like we're in for a quiet few days/weeks/months with even less updates.

I hope they have a certain area that they're focusing on, as the Indian Ocean is massive with an average depth of almost 12,000 ft (and going as deep as 26,000ft)

I read, but didn't confirm, that the focus would be shifted to near Burma area in the Bay of Bengal. That alone is approx 7 times the size of the Gulf of Thailand (or twice as big as Ontario). The Bay of Bengal has an average depth of 8,500ft with a max of 15,400. Either way, it's a huge area to search.

I hope I'm wrong, for the families sake, but think we could be in for a long search... (unless the US knows something they aren't yet sharing with the world because they don't want to show the rest of the world their surveillance cards.)

[Madman]

Any idea on the nationality of the pilot and crew?

As suggested earlier - could there be a reason this plane was hijacked and landed somewhere else?

[KelVarnsen]

Originally Posted by Mango

Alex Stone @astoneabcnews
#BREAKING US officials tell @ABC 2 communication systems on #MH370 were shut down separately. Expert says indicates possible deliberate act


For our aviation experts, are they both located in the cockpit?

Yes, you can shut them down from the cockpit. Can quite easily turn off the radios and transponder.

I am curious what they mean by communication systems however.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

I am curious what they mean by communication systems however.

And how do they know for sure?

[Mango]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

And how do they know for sure?

Here's the article with more info from ABC:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=22894802

[JonDuke]

New pic of something in the Indian Ocean.

Fuselage split in two, or a tanker?
Or absolutely nothing?

[puckluck2]

That looks like absolutely nothing.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

New pic of something in the Indian Ocean.

Fuselage split in two, or a tanker?
Or absolutely nothing?

If that is a plane fuselage, then it didn't go down very hard.

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

New pic of something in the Indian Ocean.

Fuselage split in two, or a tanker?
Or absolutely nothing?

I am the last person to have any knowledge within aviation however I am guessing that wings would float around much longer than the fuselage?
I have no clue how big the clouds are however as an aerial view, the clouds would be much larger than what is below it and whatever that is appears way to big. Photoshop is my guess, unfortunately there are a ton of people trying to make money off this situation.

[hwy19man]

Originally Posted by Wormius

1992 called and they want their hair-dos back.

Originally Posted by jeffman

I think those are hats

Men without hats?

[hwy19man]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I was watching an episode of Mayday recently; I believe it was an Air France flight that had gone missing mid-flight as well. I seem to recall their sudden emergency also cut their power; so while the crew struggled to recover the aircraft they were also unable to use radio communications.

Originally Posted by Regorium

IF you're talking about AF447 (the one that disappeared in 2009), the issue was that they (the pilots) had no idea they were in a stall until about 35 seconds before impact. None of the pilots thought they were going to die, and everything seemed to be working in decent shape until it was too late.

They gently fell out of the sky over a 3 minute period with no thoughts as to their danger. That's why there wasn't any radio communication.

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

I don't think many non-commercial, non-military aircraft fly at 35,000 feet, and if it was a collision with a commercial or military aircraft, or even some swanky business jet, it'd be almost immediately noticed, I would imagine, but I'm no aviation pro, so maybe.



I read an article about the capabilities of the 777-200, and there's backup power on the aircraft, so even if power was cut somehow, communications would still have been able to get out. Everything I read points to how bizarre it is that contact was lost all of the sudden. Even if the plane had some sort of electronic mishap, or the engines cut out, or anything, from 35,000 feet up, there'd be plenty of time to communicate with someone, according to the people that know what they're talking about.

Here it is. Interesting stuff: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/07/travel/malaysia-airliner-analysis/

The comparisons of that Buenos Aries to Paris ill fated flight are still being mentioned on various news programs. It took five days for the first sighting of wreckage. Storms were occurring where the plane crashed. The weather was much more calm for the Malaysian incident. The future Mayday episode for this will be complex.

I really feel for all the passengers and crew's families. It has to be unbearable to what they are all going through.

[Art Vandelay]

Originally Posted by hwy19man

I really feel for all the passengers and crew's families. It has to be unbearable to what they are all going through.

The way this has been handled by Malaysia and the media has been super frustrating as someone who takes interest in accidents/investigations. It's been a circus. I can't imagine what the families are going through. Must be a roller coaster of emotional highs and lows, hope and despair.

I'm at the point where I wish they would all STFU until they find some actual wreckage.

[Regulator75]

Originally Posted by cKy

Hats made of hair?

[jschick88]

WSJ saying MH370 was pinged for 5 hours now.

Communication satellites received intermittent data "pings" from a missing Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -4.08% jet, giving the plane's location, speed and altitude for at least five hours after it disappeared from civilian radar screens, people briefed on the investigation said Thursday.

The final satellite ping was sent from over water, at what one of these people called a "normal" cruising altitude. The people declined to say where specifically the transmission originated, adding that it was unclear why the transmissions stopped. One possibility one person cited was that the system sending them had been disabled by someone on board.

U.S. aviation investigators said they were analyzing the satellite transmissions to determine whether they can glean information about the plane's location or status. The transmissions were sent via onboard technology designed to send routine maintenance and system-monitoring data back to the ground via satellite links, according to people familiar with the matter.

Among the possible scenarios investigators said they are now considering is whether the jet may have landed at any point during the five-hour period under scrutiny, or whether it ultimately crashed.

http://online.wsj.com/news/article_e...MDEwMzExNDMyWj

[sharkov]