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Old 03-13-2014, 10:22 AM   #501
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Picked up on camera by one of their assassination drones.
Or with help from Nasa?

http://www.space.com/25046-nasa-miss...40313_19997324
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Old 03-13-2014, 10:26 AM   #502
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Remains such a weird situation.

WSJ apparently had 2 sources on the Rolls Royce "4 hour" flight info (pretty reputable paper and wouldn't run a story without any chance of it being real). Both RR and Boeing wouldn't comment, but Malaysia said RR and Boeing didn't have that info. Again, no one knows, but I'm more inclined to trust the WSJ than the country that hired a Shaman to help find the plane.
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Prob. the same one that is zeroing in on your house know for typing that post......
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Yeah I'd guess the "indication" is the extra 4 hours of flying time and whatever other positional data that Rolls Royce may have.

But who knows. Today's lead will likely be refuted tomorrow just like all the other leads have been so far.
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... but I'm more inclined to trust the WSJ than the country that hired a Shaman to help find the plane.

Especially a coconut wielding Shaman.
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Especially a coconut wielding Shaman.

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So Malaysian Authorities now say the WSJ article, saying the plane continued on for multiple hours, is wrong?


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From what I have read it was a reporter that asked the Malaysian authorities if it was possible the plane continued on for multiple hours. The Malaysian response was "Of course, we can't rule anything out".

For headline purposes this translates into "Malaysians say plane flew on for hours" vs "Malaysians cannot rule out that plane flew on for hours".

I'm sure there are people sitting around a table coming up with headlines and content that will get them the most hits and clicks, then okaying it with the lawyers; context and accuracy are only considerations from a legal perspective.
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not if it was a sudden disaster but it was a hijacking or robbery, with wifi someone could quickly get the word out.
If the plane had wifi, I would think that anybody who knew to turn off the transponder would have also switched off the wifi. Keeping in mind any flight with onboard wifi- that service is controlled from within the aircraft.
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TRILLING footage of the Malaysian government's hire of the country's TOP bomoh IN ACTION.


Indeed taxpayer's money well spent. My cousin thinks this super powerful bomoh got paid about $5,000 US, cause apparently that's the going rate for acquiring powers of this magnitude. I'm sure the 2 coconuts, the wicker basket, the cane, and the doormat will, undoubtedly, lead this investigation directly to the missing plane!
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Update from the Head Avgeek in the world, John Ostrower:

We've updated our story to reflect new reporting: MAS 777 flew on and its SATCOM system continued pinging

The Malaysian 777's satellite comm. system kept pinging for hours "saying I'm here, I'm ready to send data."
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If the plane had wifi, I would think that anybody who knew to turn off the transponder would have also switched off the wifi. Keeping in mind any flight with onboard wifi- that service is controlled from within the aircraft.
Stupid question - are flight controls all in English or are templates made for the language of the pilots?
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Update from the Head Avgeek in the world, John Ostrower:

The Malaysian 777's satellite comm. system kept pinging for hours "saying I'm here, I'm ready to send data."
So my two questions would be, how sensitive is that system and would it for sure be destroyed in a crash, and why didn't it send data? What determines the trigger to send or not send?

This story is entering the Tyson zone.
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Stupid question - are flight controls all in English or are templates made for the language of the pilots?
In Malaysia's case, they are in English. Can't speak for other countries.
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Malaysia's handling of this situation has been extremely disappointing. I really can't even imagine how the families of the victims have been coping thus far.

As days go by I find it hard to believe that there will be any survivors at all.
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So Malaysian Authorities now say the WSJ article, saying the plane continued on for multiple hours, is wrong?


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From what I have read it was a reporter that asked the Malaysian authorities if it was possible the plane continued on for multiple hours. The Malaysian response was "Of course, we can't rule anything out".

For headline purposes this translates into "Malaysians say plane flew on for hours" vs "Malaysians cannot rule out that plane flew on for hours".

I'm sure there are people sitting around a table coming up with headlines and content that will get them the most hits and clicks, then okaying it with the lawyers; context and accuracy are only considerations from a legal perspective.
The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the plane flew for approximately 4 hours after the Malaysians lost contact with the plane. This info is apparently coming from Rolls Royce and/or Boeing, and the automatic relay of engine data.

The Malaysians denied that the plane continued flying for 4 extra hours. Or they were denying it last time I checked the news. The story is changing constantly. It's frustrating for me as a casual news reader, I can't imagine how awful it must be for the families to have all this confusion and contradictory news reports and quotes from government, military, etc.
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The ICAO official langage is English, and all pilots and flight crew responsible for flight operations must speak English. All ATC comms are in English no matter which country you go to
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The ICAO official langage is English, and all pilots and flight crew responsible for flight operations must speak English. All ATC comms are in English no matter which country you go to
My brother-in-law works in the aviation industry and has told me this as well, but he also told me that apparently anyone who lands a plane in Quebec has to be able to do it in French. He said that it is the only place in the world that says French is official (including France even).


He works on the maintenance end though, so maybe he was misinformed.
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My brother-in-law works in the aviation industry and has told me this as well, but he also told me that apparently anyone who lands a plane in Quebec has to be able to do it in French. He said that it is the only place in the world that says French is official (including France even).


He works on the maintenance end though, so maybe he was misinformed.
Not true, although sometimes radio transmissions may be made in French. However this can cause safety issues as other aircraft on the same radio frequency that don't speak the language could lose some situational awareness.
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Especially a coconut wielding Shaman.
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In Malaysia's case, they are in English. Can't speak for other countries.
Okay, so potential hijackers (or kidnappers) wouldn't necessarily be thwarted by labeling of switches and such things.
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