01-20-2014, 06:22 PM
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#421
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Sign and trade??? Lol I'm not sure how I feel about this. The guy isn't terrible so if that's what we're shooting for then we got it.
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01-20-2014, 06:23 PM
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#422
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle
No Corban Kight couldn't, he isn't even playing full time center in the AHL, and he'll like play wing in the NHL.
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yes he is, the only time he has not been at centre is when he was QB on the PP
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli
Only 13% of CPers voted to re-sign Stajan in this thread, which was started a mere three days ago.
Now it seems like the majority are good with this signing.
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I don't know about everyone else, but U was certain he was going to be gone so I never really considered the possibility
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01-20-2014, 06:24 PM
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#423
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DOOM
Guys like Stastny, Roy and Bolland would probably only help the Flames from 28-30 in the league to maybe 25-27, theres no point, imo.
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Sure there is a point, sign them long term because good free agents are rarely available,
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01-20-2014, 06:25 PM
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#424
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#1 Goaltender
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I guess everyone saying Stajan is a good third line center missed all those games when he was playing as a third line center
Just because a guy is alright on the top line doesn't make him magically better on the third line
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01-20-2014, 06:25 PM
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#425
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: the middle
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Call me crazy but at least Stajan is an NHL'er. It would be bleak if we had to overpay a boyd gordon 3.25 for the same term for the same job.
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And what job is that?
Be a mediocre scorer (Stajan only has 30 more points in the past four seasons, only three more goals)? Be a clutch faceoff taker (Gordon hasn't been under 56% in that time, Stajan hasn't been over 50% since 2011-12)? Be an energy guy, good hitter, responsible defensively (there's nothing noticeably different in their stats for hits and blocked shots etc. and their playing styles are nothing to write home about)?
If you're overpaying Gordon, you're overpaying Stajan. They are both replaceable players who have their deficiencies and strengths. In fact the only one of them with a noticeably good stat is Gordon's faceoff percentage (and faceoffs are the thing that Stajan's supporters seem to keep going on about).
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01-20-2014, 06:25 PM
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#426
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Halifax
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2 years too long.
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01-20-2014, 06:26 PM
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#427
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Stajan has over his time with the Flames become a reliable 2 way player and effective pk player.
The 3.1 per falls into the average market range of what he offers a team. Pts and minutes played.
I'm not thrilled it is a 4 year instead of a 3 year deal. But there is a certain level of importance that a veteran player wants to stay through a rebuild.
The Flames need to include players like this that truly want to play here. I believe a successful rebuild can not be solely built with young prospects and draft picks.
Burke realizes you need veteran like Stajan to fill in the pieces too.
Stajan is a guy that Burke wanted out of TO and he dealt him, now he is willing to resign him to a 4yr deal here. That tells me Stajan has earned Burkes respect. That is more than enough of a stamp of approval for me.
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01-20-2014, 06:26 PM
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#428
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First Line Centre
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I want to see a complete rw makeover. Sign kulimen. Knight. And someone else for right side.
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01-20-2014, 06:26 PM
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#429
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Malholtra might be an option because he's still not playing like an established NHL'er.
Honestly here, short of 10 million dollars, what is Calgary going to offer one of those guys?
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There are only 2 cap hits above 4.5m. You don't think throwing 5 at a guy for a season is worth giving a look? Just shouldn't be Jokinen.
I just don't understand why Stajan keeps getting inked to these early contracts. Darryl signed him just one month after the Phaneuf trade. Burke didn't even let him hit the market, which wouldn't have been a mistake either. I'm not overly pissed about the signing, just don't see why.
Last edited by Frank MetaMusil; 01-20-2014 at 06:29 PM.
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01-20-2014, 06:27 PM
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#430
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt
So before you dream about the following line-up..
Gaudreau - Monahan - Poirier
Klimchuk - Jankowski - Agostino
Granlund - Knight - Ferland
Westgarth - Macdermid - McGratton.
Giordano - Sieloff
Wideman - Wotherspoon
Brodie - Kulak
Gillies
Ortio.
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Can't wait to see that fourth line against the Canucks  Also it's McGrattan
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01-20-2014, 06:29 PM
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#431
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Any NMC/NTC?
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01-20-2014, 06:30 PM
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#432
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roughneck
And what job is that?
Be a mediocre scorer (Stajan only has 30 more points in the past four seasons, only three more goals)? Be a clutch faceoff taker (Gordon hasn't been under 56% in that time, Stajan hasn't been over 50% since 2011-12)? Be an energy guy, good hitter, responsible defensively (there's nothing noticeably different in their stats for hits and blocked shots etc. and their playing styles are nothing to write home about)?
If you're overpaying Gordon, you're overpaying Stajan. They are both replaceable players who have their deficiencies and strengths. In fact the only one of them with a noticeably good stat is Gordon's faceoff percentage (and faceoffs are the thing that Stajan's supporters seem to keep going on about).
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The job is warm body that wants to be there.
Signing stajan now means you don't have to compete with offers in the summer.
You don't want to be left without a centre when the music stops in September, or stuck with a guy who is there for the paycheques waiting for an opportunity to leave.
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01-20-2014, 06:31 PM
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#433
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First Line Centre
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Plz don't sign Butler for 4yrs......
Don't sign him at all actually. Russell is priority #1.
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01-20-2014, 06:31 PM
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#434
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: 403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Husky
I want to see a complete rw makeover. Sign kulimen. Knight. And someone else for right side.
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I want to see us draft RW and D this year. The only top tier RW prospect in our system imo is Emile Poirier. We need to target some power forward type RWers to make up for our skinny short LW like Klimchuk, Sven, and Gaudreau.
I'd be happy if we only took RWers and Defencemen in this draft unless a C or G our scouting staff really likes is available in one of our spots.
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01-20-2014, 06:34 PM
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#435
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by irrevocable
Solid signing. We need veteran presence.. and the only way I'd freak is if every UFA gets signed. Stajan actually cares and can play an NHL game, nothing flashy, but come on now.. for those freaking out -- chill.
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It's the term more than anything.
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01-20-2014, 06:37 PM
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#436
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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I'm perfectly fine with this move.
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01-20-2014, 06:39 PM
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#437
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 17th Ave :D
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanCharles
It's the term more than anything.
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I don't get the issue? We're a rebuilding team that probably isn't going to see much success for the next couple years at least. I get the love for our prospects and wanting young guys to get a chance.. but guess what? Nothing has changed. If you think Burke (or by proxy the next GM) will keep Stajan around if he's pushed down the depth charts--you're nuts lol.
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01-20-2014, 06:41 PM
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#438
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Retired
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When you consider the Flames need at least some veteran presence in the forward corps moving forward, and getting similar players elsewhere will cost that much, and perhaps can't attract higher quality FA's without overpaying even more, I'm resigned to thinking this signing makes sense.
It just puts an exclamation point where we're at and where we're going to be over the next few seasons. It isn't pretty.
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01-20-2014, 06:44 PM
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#439
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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The more I think about it I am fine with the cap hit but still not a fan of the term. Stajan clearly doesn't put winning at the top of his list. I think he would prefer having a bigger role on a lesser team than a lesser role on a top team which is fine. He wants those responsibilities and likes being a mentor for the younger kids. I am sure he has also fallen in love with the city and wants to stay here.
2 years would have been good. I think the Flames might stand pat at the center position for another year. I don't see Backs moving and obviously Monahan is here to stay.
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01-20-2014, 06:46 PM
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#440
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Franchise Player
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Did not see him as a Burke guy. Guess i was wrong. Money is fine, and I suspect in 2 years a player like him will be making $4 + million with cap going up. He will be tradeable in 2 years, if some of the youngsters can push him out.
I have to presume Burke see's little chance of top 6 centers signing with Calgary in the next couple of years.
Cheer up folks with Stajan as one of our top 6 centers next year, it should give us a jump on McDavid. Now Burke better get rid of Cammi and Stempniak or i will be pissed.
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