01-20-2014, 06:01 PM
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#401
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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I would have preferred 3 over even at same total money but it isn't a horrible deal.
If this deal holds the Flames back from winning then we have some major issues outside of Stajan.
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01-20-2014, 06:03 PM
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#402
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil
Would have rathered Burke goes after Goc, Legwand, Ott, Fiddler, Lewis, Moore, Fraser, pretty much any other option than just a new contract for Matt Stajan.
Signing was unnecessary and I still maintain Feaster would have caught a million times for flack for this than Burke is.
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I don't think a single one of those guys is interested in playing for Calgary next year. Not for the dollar figure Calgary signed Stajan for.
I think that's probably the most significant factor.
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01-20-2014, 06:03 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil
Would have rathered Burke goes after Goc, Legwand, Ott, Fiddler, Lewis, Moore, Fraser, pretty much any other option than just a new contract for Matt Stajan.
Signing was unnecessary and I still maintain Feaster would have caught a million times for flack for this than Burke is.
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Leg wand and maybe Ott are the only guys there that are an upgrade and Legwand will cost a lot more than 3 million a year.
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01-20-2014, 06:05 PM
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#404
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Flames make contract official
http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=701512
no mention of a NTC/NMC (limited or full)
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01-20-2014, 06:05 PM
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#405
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Mike F
Said it before: Stajan would be a solid 3rd line centre and a welcome signing if he was winning 58% of his faceoffs.
He's winning 48%.
Don't like this at all. This team needs that spot for developing players.
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There's really nothing Stajan is really good at.
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01-20-2014, 06:07 PM
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#406
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Originally Posted by DOOM
of a 70+ million dollar salary cap. Less then 4.5 percent of the cap.
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Whaaaaaat!? Only 4.5 percent!!??
That's like 3 million egg mcmuffins! 
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01-20-2014, 06:07 PM
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moon
Leg wand and maybe Ott are the only guys there that are an upgrade and Legwand will cost a lot more than 3 million a year.
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I don't think a single one of those guys is interested in playing for Calgary next year. Not for the dollar figure Calgary signed Stajan for.
I think that's probably the most significant factor.
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Sure, but why do dollars matter if the team is trying to get above the cap floor? Calgary already knows what they have with Stajan.
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01-20-2014, 06:07 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
There's really nothing Stajan is really good at.
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He's good at playing hockey.
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01-20-2014, 06:07 PM
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#409
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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YES! Victory! No Ntc 
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01-20-2014, 06:08 PM
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#410
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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil
Sure, but why do dollars matter if the team is trying to get above the cap floor? Calgary already knows what they have with Stajan.
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And know what they would with all of those players you listed.
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01-20-2014, 06:09 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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Originally Posted by Righteous1
Whaaaaaat!? Only 4.5 percent!!??
That's like 3 million egg mcmuffins! |
Thats only 810 million calories
Last edited by Robo; 01-20-2014 at 06:13 PM.
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01-20-2014, 06:09 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 17th Ave :D
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Solid signing. We need veteran presence.. and the only way I'd freak is if every UFA gets signed. Stajan actually cares and can play an NHL game, nothing flashy, but come on now.. for those freaking out -- chill.
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01-20-2014, 06:09 PM
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#413
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First Line Centre
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We're stuck with Stajan like a stoner is stuck with a Yin Yang tattoo.
With any luck he'll inflate his numbers over the next couple of years and we can trade him & his decent-value contract for something useful.
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01-20-2014, 06:11 PM
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#414
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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Stajan has been solid the past two years, was maybe the team's best player last season... but a 4 year deal is more term than I would have liked to have seen handed out to anyone in this losing environment.
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01-20-2014, 06:12 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Originally Posted by DOOM
And know what they would with all of those players you listed.
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Even though they've never played with any of the current/previous rosters?
That's just 6 guys I listed. Stastny, Roy, Bolland, Boyle, Malhotra, Ryan Carter, hell even Koivu are also options.
Settling on Stajan after 50 games just doesn't scream "patience" either, imo.
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01-20-2014, 06:12 PM
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlameZilla
We're stuck with Stajan like a stoner is stuck with a Yin Yang tattoo.
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Sig material
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01-20-2014, 06:15 PM
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#417
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Robo
Thats only 810 million calories
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Whaaaat!? 810,000,000!!!???
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01-20-2014, 06:19 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: 403
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I am fine with this signing...
Stajan has more value to a young Flames team then he has to anyone in the NHL!
I am also sick of people crying about how this is the end of Backlund, or means Knight wont get a chance, or if we take McDavid - in over a years time ... this signing will ensure we have "too much centers".
1st off center is the 2nd most important position in hockey besides a goaltender.
You can never have too many centers... You can move them to wing or even trade them. (yes we can still trade stajan if we want folks!)
Secondly I think a lot of fans would be well served by looking into what made emonton such a bad team.
They thought - like some of our fans do - that its a smart idea to ice a lineup of 1st / 2nd year players, who are all undersized and have minimal NHL experience.
So before you dream about the following line-up..
Gaudreau - Monahan - Poirier
Klimchuk - Jankowski - Agostino
Granlund - Knight - Ferland
Westgarth - Macdermid - McGratton.
Giordano - Sieloff
Wideman - Wotherspoon
Brodie - Kulak
Gillies
Ortio.
IF we ever iced this lineup, not only would we lose, we would be manhandled and in a perpetual rebuild because of the losing culture and lack of truculence/size/experience in the top 3 lines.
Jeez...its like some people dont know whats happened in Edmonton and how that team got to where it is today. It was through a lack of patience and an over-confidence in their young guys - and a lack of experienced vets to ease them (young guys) into the lineup / top minutes.
I am not a big fan of Stajan and even I can see this move is whats best for the Flames AND the young players so many want to see rushed into a sink or swim situation.
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01-20-2014, 06:21 PM
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#419
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil
Even though they've never played with any of the current/previous rosters?
That's just 6 guys I listed. Stastny, Roy, Bolland, Boyle, Malhotra, Ryan Carter, hell even Koivu are also options.
Settling on Stajan after 50 games just doesn't scream "patience" either, imo.
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Malholtra might be an option because he's still not playing like an established NHL'er.
Honestly here, short of 10 million dollars, what is Calgary going to offer one of those guys?
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01-20-2014, 06:21 PM
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#420
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil
Even though they've never played with any of the current/previous rosters?
That's just 6 guys I listed. Stastny, Roy, Bolland, Boyle, Malhotra, Ryan Carter, hell even Koivu are also options.
Settling on Stajan after 50 games just doesn't scream "patience" either, imo.
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Guys like Stastny, Roy and Bolland would probably only help the Flames from 28-30 in the league to maybe 25-27, theres no point, imo.
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