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		|  01-13-2014, 02:58 PM | #501 |  
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					Originally Posted by jammies  There is a profound difference between enjoying looking at hot women and thinking a woman is only worthwhile if you can enjoy looking at her. |  
You are exaggerating my original comment, which started this s..tstorm and which I can only attribute to people being bored.  I never said or implied the above at all.
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		|  01-13-2014, 03:09 PM | #502 |  
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					Originally Posted by CaptainYooh  You are exaggerating my original comment, which started this s..tstorm and which I can only attribute to people being bored.  I never said or implied the above at all. |  
No you are right it is everyone else's fault, like those silly women.
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		|  01-13-2014, 03:09 PM | #503 |  
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					Originally Posted by CaptainYooh  You are exaggerating my original comment, which started this s..tstorm and which I can only attribute to people being bored.  I never said or implied the above at all. |  
Your post strongly implied that women shouldn't do things that make them look less feminine. That you don't see how this logically leads to the statement that looking feminine (ie - pretty) is more important than doing what she feels like doing, and being who she wants to be, is an inability to work out the consequences of your ideas and not anyone's misinterpretation.
		 
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		|  01-13-2014, 03:13 PM | #504 |  
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					Originally Posted by CaptainYooh  OK then.  So whenever anyone of you drool over a hot girl in the "You Love You Lose" thread, you are being hypocritical. |    |  
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		|  01-13-2014, 03:18 PM | #505 |  
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					Originally Posted by jammies  Your post strongly implied that women shouldn't do things that make them look less feminine. That you don't see how this logically leads to the statement that looking feminine (ie - pretty) is more important than doing what she feels like doing, and being who she wants to be, is an inability to work out the consequences of your ideas and not anyone's misinterpretation. |  
As long as we keep this conversation civil, no, your interpretation is wrong.  You have seen my position on personal liberties.  I would have never said or implied something like that.  What I did say was that some hard sports make women look less feminine and I stand by that statement.  Even if you disagree, how is that a heresy or "character flaw" as MMF's suggesting?
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		|  01-13-2014, 03:25 PM | #506 |  
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					Originally Posted by CaptainYooh  As long as we keep this conversation civil, no, your interpretation is wrong. You have seen my position on personal liberties. I would have never said or implied something like that. What I did say was that some hard sports make women look less feminine and I stand by that statement. Even if you disagree, how is that a heresy or "character flaw" as MMF's suggesting? |  
It is hard to keep a discussion civil, when the very root of your side of the discussion is uncivil, IMO.
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		|  01-13-2014, 03:26 PM | #507 |  
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					Originally Posted by CaptainYooh  Say what you want, some sports girls just should not be playing.  Not saying they cannot, because they can do it quite well, but should not for their own sake, as it makes them look less feminine.  Hockey, soccer, weightlifting to name a few... |  
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I don't see how the first bolded statement can be reconciled with the second. You aren't just saying that women look less feminine when doing particular sports, you're saying  that women (well - you're saying "girls", which is a bit of tell as well, as you aren't using it ironically) shouldn't participate in them because of that.
		 
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		|  01-13-2014, 03:27 PM | #508 |  
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					Originally Posted by CaptainYooh  As long as we keep this conversation civil, no, your interpretation is wrong.  You have seen my position on personal liberties.  I would have never said or implied something like that.  What I did say was that some hard sports make women look less feminine and I stand by that statement.  Even if you disagree, how is that a heresy or "character flaw" as MMF's suggesting? |  
But you said they shouldn't play  certain sports because it makes them look less feminine. That's an important distinction. No is saying what type of women to be attracted to, but wanting someone to act a certain way, or do certain things, so they fit your idea of what is attractive is wrong.
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		|  01-13-2014, 03:38 PM | #509 |  
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			How do you feel about male figure skaters, ballet dancers, etc?
		 
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					Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale  How do you feel about male figure skaters, ballet dancers, etc? |  |  
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		|  01-13-2014, 03:40 PM | #511 |  
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					Originally Posted by DownInFlames  But you said they shouldn't play certain sports because it makes them look less feminine. That's an important distinction. No is saying what type of women to be attracted to, but wanting someone to act a certain way, or do certain things, so they fit your idea of what is attractive is wrong. |  
Fair enough, it could have been phrased differently, perhaps.  But those who took offense in it and accused me of being sexist should not radicalize the statement just because you disagree with the premise for as long as you acknowledge my right to believe in that premise.  My statement: "I believe that some sports make women look less feminine" was converted into "Women must stay home, mend the children and cover their faces" or something like that.  Don't you see the difference?
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		|  01-13-2014, 03:41 PM | #512 |  
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		|  01-13-2014, 03:42 PM | #513 |  
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					Originally Posted by burn_this_city  They smoke butts? |  
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		|  01-13-2014, 04:14 PM | #514 |  
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					Originally Posted by CaptainYooh  Fair enough, it could have been phrased differently, perhaps.  But those who took offense in it and accused me of being sexist should not radicalize the statement just because you disagree with the premise for as long as you acknowledge my right to believe in that premise.  My statement: "I believe that some sports make women look less feminine" was converted into "Women must stay home, mend the children and cover their faces" or something like that.  Don't you see the difference? |  
Psst...
 
That's still sexist, without converting it to anything else.
		 
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		|  01-13-2014, 05:07 PM | #516 |  
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		|  01-13-2014, 05:40 PM | #517 |  
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			Having a very large head while wearing glasses. Not many choices for frames, hats are just a no go, and headphones could easily be a source of pain rather than pleasure if too much clamping pressure.
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					Originally Posted by Anduril  Having a very large head while wearing glasses. Not many choices for frames, hats are just a no go, and headphones could easily be a source of pain rather than pleasure if too much clamping pressure. |  
Why don't you go cry yourself to sleep on your gigantic pillah.
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			Who would have thought that getting punched in the face could take such a weird turn...
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