LED is technically a type of LCD TV anyway, it just has to do with the lighting (backlighting). Non LED LCD TV's are lit florescently, and LED's are lit, surprise surprise, by LED light panels. But the actual display is exactly the same Liquid Crystal Display (LCD) technology (minus small upgrades as technology evolves).
Plasma is actually a different display.
So, unless you're just looking for a cheap TV, there's no real reason to choose an LCD over an LED. LED is just an upgraded LCD TV. I have seen some LCD's kicking around though and they are always much cheaper. I'm not sure if Non-LED LCD's are being made anymore, but I have still seen many kicking around stores so if price is your biggest factor, it could still be an option. Otherwise everything else runs in LED's favor. Color, contrast, and energy usage, all better on LED.
A quick disclaimer, early after LED's coming out people complained they had a higher burn in rate than regular LCD TV's making a gaming option a possible win for a standard LCD TV (as they have menus and HUD's that generally hang around for hours compared to a television program that is changing all the time). But you don't really hear about that anymore.
As for plasma, I know they still have better frame rates and you'll get larger sizes and bang for your buck, but they are slowly being phased out as well. The two things I know that go against them are higher burn in rates, and far less energy efficient, some complaining they even get too hot. But a lot of people swear by their contrast and their blacks. And as mentioned your going to get a better frame rate for less money and more TV for less money in general.
For me, I get kinda nervous though, seeing a 55 inch plasma for $799 and a comparable LED for $1299. I'm always wondering, what's wrong with the plasma?
I don't think LCD TVs are even made regularly any more. Your only options are really LED or plasma and even then it depends on budget. I purchased a TV during the summer and went back and forth between the two.
Just to correct you LED TV's are still LCD TV's. LED refers to the backlighting behind the LCD. Older style LCD TV's have fluorescent back lighting.
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The two things I know that go against them are higher burn in rates, and far less energy efficient, some complaining they even get too hot.
Hasn't been a problem for about 4 years of plasma production. The energy thing however, is very true with a plasma panel using 4-5 times as much energy as an LED panel.
Generally, plasmas are great basement/home theatre TVs in rooms with controllable light levels (proper blinds/blackouts, dimmers, etc.), but they suck ass as general use TVs.
^^^ Oh yeah, forgot about that. Plasma often handle glare a lot worse than LED/LCD's. My TV set up is near my balcony window, so I was told to avoid a plasma.
As for the burn in rate, yeah you could be right about that. Sounds like all flat screens had a problem with that somewhere in their early cycle, and eventually got fixed, or reduced.
The newer plasma TVs seem to almost never have the image burning issue the old plasmas had. I have two plasmas and love them. The blacks, colors and refresh rate are great for gaming and watching hockey and the only time I seem to get any burn is if a menu is left on the screen for 3 hours. I can definatly notice the difference when I watch a game on my daughters LED tv.
BTW: What's better for playing the PS4 on? LCD, LED or Plasma?
I recently bought an LED (Sony KDL-55W900A) over a Plasma because of the low input lag. Only really matters if you play COD or Battlefield type games where every millisecond matters. You can find some Plasmas with low input lag but the options are limited.
I would recommend NBA 2k14 on either system...best looking game at the moment and a really good game even for non B-Ball fans like myself
I will second this. Great game. I just got my PS4 on Sunday and so far so good. Love the speed of the UI. So smooth going back and forth between games and the interface.
If anybody on PSN wants to add me I'm Cochrane44.
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That’s pretty close to what Sony is doing again with the PS4, although it’s not as extreme. At least that’s the conclusion drawn by the research firm IHS, which will later today release the findings of a teardown analysis of the PS4 and the combined cost of the components used to build it.
AllThingsD got an early look at the analysis, in which the firm estimates the cost of those parts, plus what it costs to assemble them, at $381. That is only $18 shy of the PS4’s $399 retail price, leaving Sony little profit margin on the sale of the device itself.
Then there’s the controller, which costs another $18 to build. It contains Bluetooth chips from Qualcomm, an audio chip from Wolfson Microelectroncs and a motion sensor chip from Bosch. The system ships with only one controller in the box.
The verdict from a report that IHS will release later today was shared exclusively with AllThingsD: The combined cost of parts and manufacturing everything that comes with the Xbox One — the console, the Kinect and the controller — comes out to $471, or about $90 more than the cost of Sony’s PS4, which debuted last week.
The Xbox One sells at retail for $499, giving Microsoft little, if any, room for much of a profit for now.
At least $75 of that cost is derived from the Kinect motion-sensing add-on that comes bundled with the console.
The controller costs about $15, and contains Wi-Fi and Bluetooth components from Marvell Technology.
I recently bought an LED (Sony KDL-55W900A) over a Plasma because of the low input lag. Only really matters if you play COD or Battlefield type games where every millisecond matters. You can find some Plasmas with low input lag but the options are limited.
Very good point. The TV I bought last year had bad input lag. It made playing online in COD and Battlefield a nightmare. I finally realized it had a setting called 'game mode' in the TV settings and it was shocking what a difference it made. I'm not 100% sure but I think the input lag without the game mode on was 0.17 and I was getting slaughtered.
Both groups seem rather happy with the respective consoles but they discuss some various nuances that are probably better described directly from the source.
Basically, buy them both!
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Hey guys, just recently decided maybe I should blow some money on a PS4, so haven't been really up to date with the availability. I think that was covered well a few pages back, just looking for an update.
Is the PS4 available anywhere in Calgary? If I wanted one, should I order one online, or try my luck in grabbing one from a recent shipment to some store?
Hey guys, just recently decided maybe I should blow some money on a PS4, so haven't been really up to date with the availability. I think that was covered well a few pages back, just looking for an update.
Is the PS4 available anywhere in Calgary? If I wanted one, should I order one online, or try my luck in grabbing one from a recent shipment to some store?
Just kidding. I think chemgear mentioned that there are plenty of stores around the city with PS4s in stock.
If you haven't dropped a layaway order at a Bestbuy/Futureshop, might not be a bad idea to guarantee yourself a PS4 rather than hunting without a backup plan. $50 deposit which can be refunded if you cancel.
I haven't had as much time as I would have liked and have way to many launch titles but these are my first impressions.
PS4:
OS: Simple, clean, and easy to use. Share button is easy to use, the new XMB works really well in my opinion, and it is just really user friendly. Does not have some of the advanced functionality that the XBox has but what it does it does really well and is very simple.
Killzone: Underrated by reviews IMO. The gameplay is sharp but nothing groundbreaking. The graphics are unbelieveable and personally I feel they are the best out of all the next generation games (including Ryse).
Battlefield 4: Great visuals, and the gameplay is what you'd expect. Really need to get the online glitches and failures worked out since that is the key to the game.
Knack: Simple yet fun. Can be repetitive if you play for long periods of time but in shorter spurts it is a fun game to break up the sports/shooters games. Should have been a $40 value title.
Fifa 14: Graphics are good but not a huge step up. The biggest advancements are in gameplay. The way the ball reacts, the player movement, etc are all improved. Really look forward to what the future iterations bring.
NBA 2K14: Right up there with Killzone in terms of graphics. Gameplay is sharp as the previous 2K basketball games but not really a game you pick up and play, really is a sim that is deep. Still fun, and the graphics will leave you in awe. People walking past will think you are watching a real game.
Madden 14: Disappointing. Graphics are a minor step up, and the gameplay isn't a huge improvement.
XBox One:
OS: The framework is there but needs to be improved upon. Kind of the opposite of the PS4. The OS is feature rich and has some neat functionality but nothing is simple, especially if you are not using voice control. Plus Voice control is still hit and miss, and it is frustraiting repeating the same prompt with no success. Huge potential though and once the voice control is nailed down it will be really smooth.
Ryse: Visually it is amazing, not quite as sharp as some of the teasers but still jaw dropping. On the tougher difficulties it is quite fun. Combat can be repetitive but not as bad as the press A to conquer Rome reviews, similar to combat in the Arkham series without the advanced stealth/aerial Batman gameplay.
Forza: Visually it is good, but not great. The car models look great but the landscapes need work (2D crowds, flat trees). Have probably played this the least so far though so it is very early impressions. Also not impressed with what I have heard about the micro transactions.
Dead Rising 3: The most fun of any of the launch exclusives (both systems) IMO. The graphics are not that sharp, and visually it almost looks last gen....until there are literally hundreds of zombies on the screen and you have to bash your way through them. Shows the potential for open world next gen titles.
Will provide more feedback once I get more time with both systems. So far I am happy with both systems. If I had to pick one at this time it would likely be the PS4. Features the cheaper price point, and while the XBox One operating system has huge potential it is not as user friendly as I would like at this time. Also just think the PS4 is the nicer box at this time, and have a feeling that XBox will be making a "slim" update sooner then Sony.
Still don't think you can go wrong with either system though, and traditionally I have leaned toward Sony so that might just be my personal preference.
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