10-18-2013, 04:08 PM
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#61
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Originally Posted by Brannigans Law
Apparently tacit approval of sex leaves us all open to rape charges, according to the law.
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Fixed.
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10-18-2013, 04:08 PM
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#62
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Originally Posted by _Q_
So if a girl playfully says "No", giggles proceeds to keep trying to turn you on and pull you on top of her, doesn't resist and seems to be enjoying it while it's happening is it rape? You didn't get verbal confirmation that it's OK, but it was implied that she'd like to have sex.
All I'm saying is it's never black and white and simply hearing a "Yes" or "No" rarely mean anything.
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If a girl says "no", don't have sex with her. Black and white is actually a good policy in this case. Verbal "no" wins over implied "yes" every time. If they actually want to have sex with you, you can get the verbal "yes". If they keep playing coy and won't say "yes" after you've made it clear you won't do it without the "yes", guess what? They don't want to have sex with you.
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10-18-2013, 04:09 PM
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The girl should serve jail time. Period.
She is the reason why police don't take rape seriously. Throw the book at her. Disgusting.
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10-18-2013, 04:11 PM
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#64
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Originally Posted by evman150
She is the reason why police don't take rape seriously. .
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Really?
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10-18-2013, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rubecube
FTR, I'm not convicting this guy, but just because she appeared to be enjoying it doesn't mean it was consensual.
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If she is alert enough to grab the back of his head and shove it into her crotch and flip her hair around like she is shooting a porno, she is alert enough to say no or have put a stop to this, especially with a crowd around. All she had to say was no and there would have been guys stomping this guys head into the ground. This isn't rape. She's a terrible person and she should be punished.
Last edited by jhunt223; 10-18-2013 at 04:14 PM.
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10-18-2013, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jhunt223
If she is alert enough to grab the back of his head and shove it into her head and flip her hair around like she is shooting a porno, she is alert enough to say no or have put a stop to this, especially with a crowd around. All she had to say was no and there would have been guys stomping this guys head into the ground. This isn't rape. She's a terrible person and she should be punished.
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oh there are terrible people around here that is for sure..........
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10-18-2013, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by evman150
The girl should serve jail time. Period.
She is the reason why police don't take rape seriously. Throw the book at her. Disgusting.
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10-18-2013, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jhunt223
If she is alert enough to grab the back of his head and shove it into her head and flip her hair around like she is shooting a porno, she is alert enough to say no or have put a stop to this, especially with a crowd around.
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Because people can't do these things if they've been drugged or are drunk?
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All she had to say was no and there would have been guys stomping this guys head into the ground. This isn't rape. She's a terrible person and she should be punished.
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I wouldn't really expect anything less from you.
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10-18-2013, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Really?
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It would be more constructive if you specified what exactly you have issue with in my statement, instead of the silly flyby that I have no idea how to respond to.
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10-18-2013, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by flameswin
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Originally Posted by evman150
It would be more constructive if you specified what exactly you have issue with in my statement, instead of the silly flyby that I have no idea how to respond to.
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Really, you can't understand why I would question " police don't take rape seriously"
How do you know?
Are you a copper?
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10-18-2013, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Because people can't do these things if they've been drugged or are drunk?
I wouldn't really expect anything less from you.
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And what... people who have been drugged can't say no? They maintain the ability to play it up for the crowd and flip their hair around and girate, but somehow they can't say the word "no". Honestly you guys are over thinking this because it's a poor little female. She posed for pictures with the guy afterwards for christs sake.
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10-18-2013, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jhunt223
And what... people who have been drugged can't say no? They maintain the ability to play it up for the crowd and flip their hair around and girate, but somehow they can't say the word "no". Honestly you guys are over thinking this because it's a poor little female. She posed for pictures with the guy afterwards for christ sake.
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Ok, I see you point, maybe her mind was on other things, like if this would increase the size of her vagina.
Your misogynistic track record doesn't help you.
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10-18-2013, 04:20 PM
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I've never asked for consent. I would assume if she doesn't say no and doesn't stand up and walk away, that is implied consent. I've never been charged for rape either. the worst is they never called me, but I got over it.
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10-18-2013, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Really, you can't understand why I would question "police don't take rape seriously"
How do you know?
Are you a copper?
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What - are you a copper? You sound offended.
Misogynists are quick to blame the female - "she asked for it". I think that attitude is disgusting. This girl's actions are what feeds the misogynists. I'll let you fill in the other steps of the argument.
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10-18-2013, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by evman150
What - are you a copper? You sound offended.
Misogynists are quick to blame the female - "she asked for it". I think that attitude is disgusting. This girl's actions are what feeds the misogynists. I'll let you fill in the other steps of the argument.
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Nope not a copper, just play on on TV.
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"police don't take rape seriously"
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I would like you to defend that statement with some supporting evidence.
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10-18-2013, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jhunt223
And what... people who have been drugged can't say no?
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Have you ever taken any of the drugs associated with date rape, or know anything about their pharmacology? I'm not saying this girl was drugged or drunk. And I already stated that if they were both equally smashed then the charges likely go nowhere.
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10-18-2013, 04:24 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by evman150
What - are you a copper? You sound offended.
Misogynists are quick to blame the female - "she asked for it". I think that attitude is disgusting. This girl's actions are what feeds the misogynists. I'll let you fill in the other steps of the argument.
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As a staunch misogynist I can confirm this. This is essentially how I view 50% of college setting "rapes" as taking place. Just a gut feeling. When a video like this surfaces that number only climbs higher. She set real rape victims back tremendously with her antics here.
Last edited by jhunt223; 10-18-2013 at 04:32 PM.
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10-18-2013, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Nope not a copper, just play on on TV.
You claim I would like you to defend that statement with some supporting evidence.
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Guess you couldn't fill in the suppressed premise of my argument. 
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10-18-2013, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by evman150
Guess you couldn't fill in the suppressed premise of my argument. |
Guess you couldn't support your assertion with any evidence 
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10-18-2013, 04:32 PM
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#80
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Originally Posted by DuffMan
I've never asked for consent. I would assume if she doesn't say no and doesn't stand up and walk away, that is implied consent. I've never been charged for rape either. the worst is they never called me, but I got over it.
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And you know what, you might be right the majority of the time but if you do some research on sexual assault, you'll come across a number of reasons why a woman might not fight back.
I guess I just don't understand why it's so difficult for people to get consent. It's a good habit to get into and can save you and other people a lot of problems.
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