[Rumour] Roger Millions hints Cammalleri asked for trade [MRG]

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

Roger is dialed right in with the Flames. I would take him as possibly one of the most credible sources when it comes to this team.

He doesn't have a particularly strong track record with this sort of speculation.

[Da_Chief]

Glencross-Stajan-Stempniak
Baertechi-Backlund-Hudler
Tanguay-Rinehart-Horak
Jones-Aliu-Knight-Bouma-McGratton-Jackman etc

Already no room for Cammi, we have a vet line that can shelter the young guys. Move him out. Tanguay too if possible, guy like Jackman can take the 3rd line, protect the kids on that line.

[Phaneufenstein]

Paul Frickin Gaustad got a first round pick at the deadline.
More ammo for Cammo

[lifetimefan]

Originally Posted by Wolven

I think most people are undervaluing Cammi (and just about every other Flames asset). It seems like we are determined to lose every trade that gets rumoured around here and that every player that joins the Flames suddenly has no value because they are under the CP microscope.

When Jay Feaster is the one making those trades, this is a given.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I would think Cammy would be a good fit on Dallas. They need an upgrade on LW.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/dal/depthchart

Ray Whitney is the 1st line LW, then it drops down to Eric Nystrom.

I would actually try and target the 2015 first round pick. Try and get a ticket in for the McDavid sweepstakes. However, they do have 2 firsts this year (Acquired one from Boston in the Jagr deal), so perhaps that would be a good place to start. Not sure if Dallas is still a budget team, but Flames could retain some salary or take a contract back. Seems like a logical destination for Cammy anyways.

Islanders still seem like too much of a budget team to take on a 7 million dollar salary with a 6 million cap hit. If the Flames retain salary, then possibly.

Ottawa does make the most sense, and they have the cap space to easily fit him in. Could be a great triggerman for Spezza, though Silfverberg is expected to take a step up this season.

I don't think it will be too tough to get rid of Cammy for a 1st to a variety of teams (as long as the Flames eat a contract the other way), but the Flames might have to settle for a 1st for next year (and in which case, I would prefer they wait an additional year for the 2015 draft).

Edit: Dallas also has 2 seconds this year. Maybe the Boston 1st + their own second (40th overall)?

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by lifetimefan

When Jay Feaster is the one making those trades, this is a given.

Ask Pittsburgh or St. L if they want a do-over?

[Skaloper]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Kinda sad it is Cammi and not Tanguay. Mike has a good attitude but Tanguay is a whiny crybaby who quits way to early on his team. Please get rid of Tanguay, Feaster.

Then who would we put in the shootout? I think we need to keep Tanguay if nothing more than a 3rd liner who can specialize in the shootout since it is a part of the game and he in the past few years is the only player who has had any success. Take into consideration that we don't have a lot of fire power there are probably going to be quite a few games going to the shootout next season.

[CliffFletcher]

Bouwmeester had much higher value than Cammalleri. And he got the Flames a late 1st and spare parts.

This idea that Cammalleri is worth a 1st is a pipe dream. More likely he returns a 2nd rounder and an overpaid 3 mil roster player.

[Husky]

I could see the Sens kicking tires. Need a bit more venetarn offense especially if Alfie is gone.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Honestly, if that is all that's being offered I'd try to convince Mike to be a leader on a young team that isn't going to win much, play his heart out and promise him you'll flip him to a better team towards the 2014 trade deadline... where you're sure to get more then that for him.

Did you guys misread fourth 1st rounder as 4th rounder or do people seriously think Cammalleri is worth more than a 1st? I'd take the first and run.

[Flash Walken]

First for cammelleri is a pipe dream at this point.

I take a second rounder in this years draft and the cap space and consider it a success.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Did you guys misread fourth 1st rounder as 4th rounder or do people seriously think Cammalleri is worth more than a 1st? I'd take the first and run.

Yeah, apparently we did. Corrected on the 2nd page.

I'd take it and run too.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Ask Pittsburgh or St. L if they want a do-over?

I doubt either team would want a "do-over".

Iggy was had for a late 1st and spare parts. Pitt would make that trade any day of the week.

JBO was one of the Blues best d-man once he arrived. He played better than PIETRANGELO in the playoffs. Again a guy they got for a 1st and spare parts.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Bouwmeester had much higher value than Cammalleri. And he got the Flames a late 1st and spare parts.

This idea that Cammalleri is worth a 1st is a pipe dream. More likely he returns a 2nd rounder and an overpaid 3 mil roster player.

I actually think the flames can get a 1st round player for Cammi at the draft or off season. They will need to eat 50% of his salary to do it. The other option is pay 2/3rd of his salary this year and trade him at the deadline for a 1st.

I will agree that no team is going to give up a 1st if they have to take his full salary.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

I think ownership could be willing to eat half of cammalleri's contract and that might be the only way we can deal him now. They'd only be eating his salary for a year.

One or both of Tanguay and Canmalleri have to go this offseason. Too many LW with Glencross, Baertschi, Cammalleri and Tanguay. Pretty clear the latter two aren't part of the long term solution.

[DuckmanX]

If we were to retain 50% of Cammy's salary, making him more appealing...

Does this effectively make Cammy a $3.0m cap hit player for our trading partner, and only hurt our cap space for 3.0m one year? Or does it take his yearly wage @ $7.0m halved, then his cap hit (avg) readjusted (3.5m cap hit for Flames and 2.5m cap hit for other team)?

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I doubt either team would want a "do-over".

Iggy was had for a late 1st and spare parts. Pitt would make that trade any day of the week.

So let me get this straight... you think that the Penguins if they were offered to undo the trade wouldn't do it? That's crazy... they'd get a first round pick and a couple of C prospects for almost literally nothing.

Bouwmeester is a bit more debatable since they have an extra year on the deal but I think it'd be close with them.

[lifetimefan]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Ask Pittsburgh or St. L if they want a do-over?

Pittsburgh was all on Iggy. I consider it a loss because the Boston deal was better.

Bouw to St. Louis was a beak even deal at best. #4 was having his best year as a Flame.

Feaster just has an "easy mark" vibe IMO, but that's what happens when you have a lawyer gauging hockey talent.

[zukes]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Honestly, if that is all that's being offered I'd try to convince Mike to be a leader on a young team that isn't going to win much, play his heart out and promise him you'll flip him to a better team towards the 2014 trade deadline... where you're sure to get more then that for him.

That is a stupid post, ask nik. It makes way too much sense for both parties.

[shermanator]

Cammalleri for Niederreiter anyone?