All About New LARGE SUV's

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by daradon

it wasn't this thread, i've had the feeling since the vehicle came out probably...

But does anyone else find the naming of an suv after the sequoia highly ironic and moderately insulting?

We all know what happened to the majority of them right?

Just like man to destroy all the real ones and name his own cheap products over the lost majesty.

And anyone who thinks they need a vehicle this size for a stroller has truly lost their mind. I could fit one into my beretta and my mustang.

No wait it's one of those god awful ridiculously sized beohemoth strollers that matches your choice in suv? Amirite?

Those are even stupider than the suvs.

haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

[HockeyPuck]

Originally Posted by Daradon

It wasn't this thread, I've had the feeling since the vehicle came out probably...

But does anyone else find the naming of an SUV after the sequoia highly ironic and moderately insulting?

We all know what happened to the majority of them right?

Just like man to destroy all the real ones and name his own cheap products over the lost majesty.

And anyone who thinks they need a vehicle this size for a stroller has truly lost their mind. I could fit one into my Beretta and my Mustang.

No wait it's one of those god awful ridiculously sized beohemoth strollers that matches your choice in SUV? Amirite?

Those are even stupider than the SUVs.

Hey Al Gore, who pissed in your Corn Flakes?

Do you have kids? Judging by your post you've never had to consider this.

And no you're not right, we got one of the smaller double strollers. Sure you could get the stroller in your Beretta or Mustang, but you'd have to put the rear seat down and you couldn't bring your kids with you. Give your head a shake...

[Derek Sutton]

Although I don't own one (it's only the wife and I) I really like the H2 and I can't belive how bad GMC dropped the ball with them. My Bro is on his second and they are very practiical for him and his family and a very nice, roomy and comfy ride. You can load up the kids and hockey bags, more kids and bags, one or two extra parents, and the dog. Then in the summer time tow your trailer no problem. , sure it is hrd on gas but what full size vehicle isn't.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

Originally Posted by HockeyPuck

Hey Al Gore, who pissed in your Corn Flakes?

Do you have kids? Judging by your post you've never had to consider this.

And no you're not right, we got one of the smaller double strollers. Sure you could get the stroller in your Beretta or Mustang, but you'd have to put the rear seat down and you couldn't bring your kids with you. Give your head a shake...

1. The Mustang was a standard and got just as good milage as most econo four doors.

2. I did drive children in both cars. Strollers when needed fit fine in the trunk and kids fit in the back.

Point stands. Anything else tools? Or do you want to presume more about my life and get it wrong?

[HockeyPuck]

Originally Posted by Daradon

1. The Mustang was a standard and got just as good milage as most econo four doors.

2. I did drive children in both cars. Strollers when needed fit fine in the trunk and kids fit in the back.

Point stands. Anything else tools? Or do you want to presume more about my life and get it wrong?

Bravo Al Gore, bravo.

So what was your point? You don't like big SUVs. Point taken.

I'll presume anything I want because you did that to me in your precious post.

I'm done addressing you. Go start a thread on how much you don't like these vehicles.

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by Daradon

1. ....
Point stands. Anything else tools? Or do you want to presume more about my life and get it wrong?

This isn't about your post, but it sure is a common theme for these debates.

"It's ok for me to judge you, but not the other way around because I'm clearly right"

I don't think I'll ever understand why people get so militant about vehicle conversations.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Daradon

1. The Mustang was a standard and got just as good milage as most econo four doors.

2. I did drive children in both cars. Strollers when needed fit fine in the trunk and kids fit in the back.

Point stands. Anything else tools? Or do you want to presume more about my life and get it wrong?

I don't care what the mpg was on the 'stang. It's just that Mustang owners and SUV owners all seem to get the same lables, usually from one another. I'm sure that you can fit all the essentials in the compact 2dr cars. But what is it that makes SUV's "stupid" ? because they are big?

[shane_c]

Originally Posted by chemgear

The picture reminds me of when I used to live in Calgary. I drove a Vibe and almost died daily on the Deerfoot by giant SUV's and trucks who either didn't see me or wanted to drive over me. I had to swap out the weak factory horn for a 'highway blaster' horn so at least I could be heard.

Another story was one day I went over to the Home Depot on 130th and some guy comes out of the store with just one bag and jumps in his duelly pickup but he couldn't back out of his parking spot because someone with another duelly was parked across from him. I'm not sure how that one ended. Perhaps the rest of the parking lot had to clear so they could both drive out straight.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Ace

I've been looking around at Large SUV's lately and wondering what people think of the current model years for these vehicles.

Looking at:

Nissan Armada
Toyota Sequoya
Ford Expedition
Others in class...

Experts! chime in please.

Do you have a large vehicle already, I bought a traverse which is about the largest unibody CUV only slightly smaller than the above vehicles. One thing I didnt notice early on but do now is just how big it is. Parking, residential streets, even lane changing are just a little bit more of a nusince. Next vehicle I buy is going to be smaller.

So if you dont already have a big vehicle definately consider if you want a vehicle with that large of footprint. The space is nice but it does come woth some drawbacks

[Daradon]

As was mentioned before by a previous poster, we live in a community. Wasteful and excesive lifestyles actually do affect the rest of us. And the pollution even more so. And that doesn't even count the general ######baggery of a large amount of these drivers, as has also been pointed out by more than one poster.

Now I realize that a very few do need a vehicle this big. But it's far far less than the people that think you do.

It's a lot like the growing obesity problem. Nearly everyone wants to blame it on their thyroid or glands or hormones, when it's really just a percent of a percent of people that legitimately suffer from that. The rest are just over indulgant and often dont give two craps about others. Like said people who think they need or deserve an SUV and it gives them the right to trample over the environmental and often decency rights of others.

Maybe you really really do need a vehicle like this. But maybe not.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by guzzy

Thanks!!!
THe OP asked for opinions on different large SUV's. THe OP didn't ask for opinions on those who dislike large SUV's. My post was a sarcastic attempt to help steer the thread in the proper direction to get the info the OP requested and not have the usual disgression/hijacking that happens in message boards. .

Message boards tend to have too many people who are just looking to argue, hence the hijacking of threads. OP - "I would like to buy a large SUV". Hijacking thread internet superhero living in Mom's basement at 42 responds, "you are going to destroy the environment. You should by a smart car."

He's more of big government controlling our lives type of person. He would like to see big SUVs made illegal so we are all forced to drive small cars. Personal freedoms are big issues for people like this.

[Igottago]

I like large SUV's and trucks, they are cool vehicles and I can see them being great for certain situations or lifestyles.

With that being said...why on earth are there so many damn huge trucks in my parkade in a downtown apartment building with tight spaces? I know a lot of them don't work in the trades either. Was it really the best vehicle choice for your lifestyle? Of course its a personal choice, but when your personal choice becomes a nuisance to others, expect a bit of backlash. Is there anything I can do about it? No. But I'm going to complain, because its annoying.

On topic: The OP should consider the escalade.

[Nsd1]

Originally Posted by Igottago

On topic: The OP should consider the escalade.

The 2013 escalade with magnetic ride control is awesome, so smooth you barely feel bumps or bounce around on bad roads.

[Ace]

Originally Posted by Nsd1

The 2013 escalade with magnetic ride control is awesome, so smooth you barely feel bumps or bounce around on bad roads.

Do you know if the Yukon has this 'ride'?

[HockeyPuck]

Yukon Hybrid/Denali Hybrid has the magnetic ride control

[darklord700]

I rented an Expedition for a week and it was a good ride. But I can't see myself driving it daily as the truck is just too big and tall.

[Tinordi]

There will be a time where people in the future will look back at this era is bewilderment and disgust; that we would waste cheap fossil fuels to move 2 tonnes of metal to transport a 180 pound person.

[browna]

On my third iteration of GM full size SUV's over the past years. Limited issues, been solid workhorses with minimal mechanical issues...and when they do come up, pretty inexpensive to fix, relatively speaking, as those engine and transmissions, while long in the tooth and due for replacement, are reliable and inexpensive to fix.

Looked at the Sequoia and Armada each time looking to move into one of these other GM SUV's, just didn't check all the boxes, so kept coming back to GM.

Carrying our two large dogs in crates in the back, along with the child, a bunch of gear, and pulling the trailer we have is something few SUV's can do, outside of pure trucks.

Expedition can pull as much, but was a regular wheelbase (old Excursion was huge, basically a F250d) but not as much room as the XL/ESV from GM as we wanted (though my buddy has an Expedition and loves it)...same goes for the Japanese brands. Because of our new place/garage, I've gone to a regular wheelbase version, and may miss that extra 18 inches of space later on this summer/get a Thule.

The 2007+ versions of the GM's are a lot better, and still look pretty good 6 years on, compared to the 2002-2006 versions which needed updates in and out in 2007. That said, the full size GM SUV's are getting redone almost completely, maybe for late 2014 model year (ie a year from now being available). The pics and specs of 2014 GM trucks have been released, the SUV's will be later in the summer. The Escalade is to be revealed later in the fall/winter, and may not be available until later in 2014 calender year.

If not brand new, make sure you look at 2010+ versions, all I think all versions have the 6 spd transmission starting that year, and it makes a difference, having had both. MRC on the Escalade I think also was introduced in 2009 or 2010. Depending what you're using it for (towing) the automatic ride control is nice, as is obviously a backup camera, which may actually be standard now (in the mirror if no NAV). Bluetooth etc is standard, but again, not available until around 2010.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by browna

The 2007+ versions of the GM's are a lot better, and still look pretty good 6 years on, compared to the 2002-2006 versions which needed updates in and out in 2007. That said, the full size GM SUV's are getting redone almost completely, maybe for late 2014 model year (ie a year from now being available). The pics and specs of 2014 GM trucks have been released, the SUV's will be later in the summer. The Escalade is to be revealed later in the fall/winter, and may not be available until later in 2014 calender year.

Interesting. Is this fact, or is this more anecdotal? My 2001 Silverado is going strong with nearly 350,000 km on it, but it's starting to look ratty. I was thinking of buying one a few years newer, but was not aware that the 02-06 ones had issues.

I can't believe the fuel mileage I get on my 5.3. I swear it's better than my 2009 Tacoma was, and it's bigger, more comfortable, and can haul way more. I'd like to get another GM/Chev with a 5.3, but haven't done any research yet. Anything you could tell me would be appreciated.

[burn_this_city]

My 2007 Sierra Classic (old body style) has been perfect, no issues with 160k on the dial. I purposely bought it at the end of the product cycle not knowing if the new trucks would have issues or not.